'New's' Angels

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Looks to be a std Koi....the word Pariaba is only used to describe a Philippine blue with 2 stripeless genes....

Sorry was taking someone else's word for it 

Uhhhh, was that me ?? When all you have in your brain are BLUES ...LOL!!  TOO MANY JOBS AND NOT ENOUGH COFFEE!!   the combination can result in the sleepwalking syndrome!! LOL !!  APPEAR TO BE AWAKE BUT YOUR BRAIN IS "SLEEPING" without you!! It does have the metalic patches though just can't see them in the pic, blusher, maybe he's embarrased too!!

No need to be sorry... ...I think Willie crossed one of my Koi that was 'het' for pb ...he got a few pb Koi.....they won't pop the blue much with the Gm genes working....

Yes I do have a couple of Koi Paraiba.  Never heard of it until Jon gave me the geno and I plugged it into the calculator.  They came from a Koi x Smokey Paraiba pairing.  I think the smokey is het for gold.

So it's possible to have a koi parabia?
Ok just to clear I few things up for the "New_b"
pb= Philippine blue
het= heterozygous
Correct?
What does std and gm mean?

I have a lot to learn, but I'll get there in the meantime I'll be bombarding you all with questions
Anyone know of a some good reads to help with angel genetics, colors, all that good stuff?

Gm/Gm S/S pb/pb..or Gm/g S/S pb/pb.....= pb Koi pariaba.....

het= heterozygous.....one copy of a gene on a loci

homogeneous= two copies of a gene on a loci

Ten active loci at this time..

1) Dark, Marble, gold Marble, gold
2) Zebra, Stripless
3) Smokey
4) Half Black
5) Albino
6) Blue
7) Veil
Pearlscale
9) Streaked
10) Philippine Blue

Dark (D) incomplete dominant, Gold (g) recessive and Marble (M) incomplete dominant

Dominate genes are indicated with a capitol letter and the first in the bracket. ex: Stripless - Ghost: S/+ Generally dominate genes express with heterozygous traits.

Recessive genes are indicated with a lower case letter and are second in the bracket. ex: Albino (het) +/a Generally recessive genes do not express in heterozygous form, only in homozygous form.

Heterozygous: One gene (het)

Homozygous: two genes

Some genes do not show unless the fish is homozygous for the gene

Geneotype: What genes the fish carries

Phenotype: What you see as expression as far as color, pattern, and/or finnage.

To this day, there are not any gender specific traits that have been found.

Veiltail
Standard (short fin): +/+
Veil: V/+
Superveil: V/V

Pearlscale:
Flat scales: +/p
Bubble-like Scales: p/p

Smokey
Smokey: Sm/+
Chocolate: SM/SM

Half Black
Silver: +/h
Half Black: h/h

Albino
Silver: +/a
Albino: a/a

Stripeless
Ghost: S/+
Blushing: S/S

Zebra
Z/+
Z/Z double dose or DD

Philippine Blue
Silver: +/pb
Blue: pb/pb

Dark (black)
Lace: D/+
Black or Double Dark (DD): D/D

Marble
M/+
M/M

Gold Marble
Silver Gold Marble: Gm/+
Gold Marble: Gm/Gm

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Gm/Gm S/S pb/pb..or Gm/g S/S pb/pb.....= pb Koi pariaba.....

het= heterozygous.....one copy of a gene on a loci

homogeneous= two copies of a gene on a loci

Ten active loci at this time..

1) Dark, Marble, gold Marble, gold
2) Zebra, Stripless
3) Smokey
4) Half Black
5) Albino
6) Blue
7) Veil
Pearlscale
9) Streaked
10) Philippine Blue

Dark (D) incomplete dominant, Gold (g) recessive and Marble (M) incomplete dominant

Dominate genes are indicated with a capitol letter and the first in the bracket. ex: Stripless - Ghost: S/+ Generally dominate genes express with heterozygous traits.

Recessive genes are indicated with a lower case letter and are second in the bracket. ex: Albino (het) +/a Generally recessive genes do not express in heterozygous form, only in homozygous form.

Heterozygous: One gene (het)

Homozygous: two genes

Some genes do not show unless the fish is homozygous for the gene

Geneotype: What genes the fish carries

Phenotype: What you see as expression as far as color, pattern, and/or finnage.

To this day, there are not any gender specific traits that have been found.

Veiltail
Standard (short fin): +/+
Veil: V/+
Superveil: V/V

Pearlscale:
Flat scales: +/p
Bubble-like Scales: p/p

Smokey
Smokey: Sm/+
Chocolate: SM/SM

Half Black
Silver: +/h
Half Black: h/h

Albino
Silver: +/a
Albino: a/a

Stripeless
Ghost: S/+
Blushing: S/S

Zebra
Z/+
Z/Z double dose or DD

Philippine Blue
Silver: +/pb
Blue: pb/pb

Dark (black)
Lace: D/+
Black or Double Dark (DD): D/D

Marble
M/+
M/M

Gold Marble
Silver Gold Marble: Gm/+
Gold Marble: Gm/Gm
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Thank you so much this really helped! I'll have to read a little closer to wrap my head around it but I get the idea. I took a genetics class so I know how they work I was just unaware of what types of genetics angels have. I actually get paid to figure out genetics for a horse breeding farm in the area. I love playing with genetics!!!