Looks like some....

[Frank The Plumber]

Sad....Hb/Hb Pb/+ S/+ G/+ Z/+ A/+ to Hb Hb Pb/+ equals.  Yeah. But we call them HE's without ever crossing them to get Half black philipine blues, hb expressing albinos, paraibas, golds, plats etc. Oh well.

[Mugwump]

Sad....Hb/Hb Pb/+ S/+ G/+ Z/+ A/+ to Hb Hb Pb/+ equals.  Yeah. But we call them HE's without ever crossing them to get Half black philipine blues, hb expressing albinos, paraibas, golds, plats etc. Oh well.

Ah, but they did get crossed to a F3 manacapuru with a stripeless and a pb... ...and siblings were bred too.... .....

[Mugwump]

Frank has done a lot of nice crosses in his project....some bearing excellent results...I believe he was looking to get as many genes involved as possible in order to confirm/disprove as much as feasible ....the HE's that I have were from one of those building block pairings....his current half black stock is just a wonderful sight to see....lot's of work went into it....it takes up a fish room, plus....LOL...