Quarantine meds?

[Jdmcfast]

With my recent scare I'm interested in opinions on some general precautionary meds to run through my quarantine fish. Does anybody do this and if so what do you use?

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[Mugwump]

here's some reference sites

http://www.nationalfishpharm.com/diseases.html

http://thegab.org/Illness-and-Treatment/over-the-counter-fish-medicines.html

it all depends on what you'll think you'll need...
lots of folks keep Acriflavim, Potassium Permanganate, metronidazole, kanamycin sulfate , etc...

[LizStreithorst]

I don't keep much on hand.  I have some nitrofurazone because I ordered way too much last time I needed it.  Mostly I just keep PP, and it's not really a med.

The most important thing is to be sure of who you buy your fish from.  Ask the supplier how they were cleaned up.  A good supplier will tell you.  A good supplier won't want to risk loosing his reputation over a dodgy sale.

[Jdmcfast]

I don't keep much on hand.  I have some nitrofurazone because I ordered way too much last time I needed it.  Mostly I just keep PP, and it's not really a med.

The most important thing is to be sure of who you buy your fish from.  Ask the supplier how they were cleaned up.  A good supplier will tell you.  A good supplier won't want to risk loosing his reputation over a dodgy sale.

I agree but unfortunately even if you do ask they are all honest. So have recently learned. Plus like with the auction fish
I got today I didn't get the chance to talk to them
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[Mugwump]

Jusr keep them isolated and change lots of water.....and watch.....you can't treat what you don't know...precautionary drugs like PP can be used tho,,or kanamycin sulfate for bacteria and infections....??

[LizStreithorst]

I don't keep much on hand.  I have some nitrofurazone because I ordered way too much last time I needed it.  Mostly I just keep PP, and it's not really a med.

The most important thing is to be sure of who you buy your fish from.  Ask the supplier how they were cleaned up.  A good supplier will tell you.  A good supplier won't want to risk loosing his reputation over a dodgy sale.

I agree but unfortunately even if you do ask they are all honest. So have recently learned. Plus like with the auction fish
I got today I didn't get the chance to talk to them
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The trick is in knowing the good suppliers from the bad ones and in being selective who you buy from.  Even then you need to QT and watch the fish.  If something is wrong the fish will tell you.  My rule of thumb is that a skinny fish that eats with gusto has worms.  A fish that picks food up then spits it out, or has white poo has hex.  The introduction of a sacrificial lamb is importent because the new fish may carry something and be immune to it that the existing fish have never delt with and get sick from.

[PaulineMi]

While this is an older thread it brings up a couple of questions in my mind.....

How long to you QT?  I do 4-6 weeks but wonder if it needs to be that long even if everything looks fine.

Is medicating new fish as a preventative procedure of any value? I've depended on water changes and observation. However I have read plenty of posts where people treat tanks with a variety of different meds "just in case". I'm not comfortable with using meds without seeing some kinds of symtoms but am interested in more opinions.

[Mugwump]

While this is an older thread it brings up a couple of questions in my mind.....

How long to you QT?  I do 4-6 weeks but wonder if it needs to be that long even if everything looks fine.

Is medicating new fish as a preventative procedure of any value? I've depended on water changes and observation. However I have read plenty of posts where people treat tanks with a variety of different meds "just in case". I'm not comfortable with using meds without seeing some kinds of symtoms but am interested in more opinions.

   Myself, I'll QT for a week or two, then use the 'sacrificial lamb' approach. I'm not big on med's either and only keep a few. My fish have never had problems and if I see an ill one, I'll generally QT it and if no improvement with temp adhjustment, and lots of fresh water...I'll cull it. period. if it's immune system is that weak, I don't want to keep/breed/sell it. Hence, all the stock is healthy and thriving and I want to keep it that way. I'm a bit anal about that....LOL..choosy and careful.
   Most folks that pretreat are dealing with imports...however, some just do it because they can...or are leary of a seller....

[Frank The Plumber]

I have the war chest. Metro in flake and powder. Levamisole, Fenbendzole, Dylox, HP, Prazinquantel, Kanamycin, Oxytetracycline, Tri Sulfa, Tetracycline, Clove oil, PP, muriatic acid and a bunch of other stuff. I worm and treat for hex 3 times per year.

[Mir]

I also don't use meds unless necessary. But if something looks 'fishy' (lol) with a QT, I just do heat/salt and melafix. Sometimes MG... I don't like really strong antibiotics unless they're actually really sick. To me it's just too expensive to treat new fish when they don't act sick, and if you then stop using antibiotics once you 'think' they are better the bacteria etc is just gonna get resistant and harder to treat again.

But I don't cull non breeding/ unhealthy fish. I just separate them from the others.

[LizStreithorst]

I mostly do it like Mug.

[PaulineMi]

Thanks for the input.  I appreciate it.

[Frank The Plumber]

Yeah I forgot, I have the mela fix and pima fix too.

[Mugwump]

Yeah I forgot, I have the mela fix and pima fix too.

LOL..a regular medical center....zounds... ..I have some Metro, med-flakes,etc...that's about it. If I was getting fish from an importer, or breeder/broker, I'd have PP, de wormers, etc...as a precautionary treatment.

[Jdmcfast]

I have the war chest. Metro in flake and powder. Levamisole, Fenbendzole, Dylox, HP, Prazinquantel, Kanamycin, Oxytetracycline, Tri Sulfa, Tetracycline, Clove oil, PP, muriatic acid and a bunch of other stuff. I worm and treat for hex 3 times per year.

Frank what do you use for a dewormer?