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Title: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on January 20, 2016, 08:39:41 PM
Almost all, anyway.  When I'm not working on dogs or fish cars won't stay out of my head.  I miss my dear Charlotte so much.  I will make a fool of myself and visit her Friday.  I haven't seen her Monday.   

The poor Beast.  I'm selling him down the river :-[  I think about getting getting The Beast all spiffed up and selling him.  I'll ask shiny man how to get the best out of him that I can myself.  I'll show him my buffer and bonnets.  I'll ask him about products.  I could never do a job like he does but I want to do my best.  He'll tell me.  Then I'll give him $10. for having saved me from spending $175. on a job I think he would prefer not to do.  Chip said that it would take him 2 days.  Shiny man doesn't charge much for his time but even at $10. an hour two days work adds up to a lot of money.  The poor beast.

During the time I'm not yearning for Charlotte and worrying about The Beast I'm thinking about buying something new (well new for me).  I wonder if I will buy a little Popemobile of my very own or a normal bland car.  I love that little Fiat.  It's bigger on the inside than it looks from the outside.  From the outside it doesn't look much bigger than a shoe.  I stole that line from Jeremy Clarkson.  He had a blast in the fancy version of my little shoe.  https://vimeo.com/87381823
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Rjb3 on January 21, 2016, 06:45:45 AM
Sometimes when people comment about how small the 500 looks I tell them "I'm saving up to buy one for the other foot".

You are correct about the size. It's much bigger inside than it looks to be. I'm 6'2" and wear my slouch hat while driving.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: BallAquatics on January 21, 2016, 07:43:54 AM
My son's Toyota Echo is like that too.  It's super roomy inside, gets 50+ MPG, and is quite fun to drive with the 5 speed stick.

(http://www.theautochannel.com/vehicles/new/reviews/2001/russ0128.1-lg.jpg)

Dennis
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Mugwump on January 21, 2016, 09:54:44 AM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on January 20, 2016, 08:39:41 PM
Almost all, anyway.  When I'm not working on dogs or fish cars won't stay out of my head.  I miss my dear Charlotte so much.  I will make a fool of myself and visit her Friday.  I haven't seen her Monday.   

The poor Beast.  I'm selling him down the river :-[  I think about getting getting The Beast all spiffed up and selling him.  I'll ask shiny man how to get the best out of him that I can myself.  I'll show him my buffer and bonnets.  I'll ask him about products.  I could never do a job like he does but I want to do my best.  He'll tell me.  Then I'll give him $10. for having saved me from spending $175. on a job I think he would prefer not to do.  Chip said that it would take him 2 days.  Shiny man doesn't charge much for his time but even at $10. an hour two days work adds up to a lot of money.  The poor beast.

During the time I'm not yearning for Charlotte and worrying about The Beast I'm thinking about buying something new (well new for me).  I wonder if I will buy a little Popemobile of my very own or a normal bland car.  I love that little Fiat.  It's bigger on the inside than it looks from the outside.  From the outside it doesn't look much bigger than a shoe.  I stole that line from Jeremy Clarkson.  He had a blast in the fancy version of my little shoe.  https://vimeo.com/87381823

Ya know Liz.....I think that this is the car for you.  |^| 
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Ron Sower on January 21, 2016, 11:49:03 AM
Quote from: Mugwump on January 21, 2016, 09:54:44 AM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on January 20, 2016, 08:39:41 PM
Almost all, anyway.  When I'm not working on dogs or fish cars won't stay out of my head.  I miss my dear Charlotte so much.  I will make a fool of myself and visit her Friday.  I haven't seen her Monday.   

The poor Beast.  I'm selling him down the river :-[  I think about getting getting The Beast all spiffed up and selling him.  I'll ask shiny man how to get the best out of him that I can myself.  I'll show him my buffer and bonnets.  I'll ask him about products.  I could never do a job like he does but I want to do my best.  He'll tell me.  Then I'll give him $10. for having saved me from spending $175. on a job I think he would prefer not to do.  Chip said that it would take him 2 days.  Shiny man doesn't charge much for his time but even at $10. an hour two days work adds up to a lot of money.  The poor beast.

During the time I'm not yearning for Charlotte and worrying about The Beast I'm thinking about buying something new (well new for me).  I wonder if I will buy a little Popemobile of my very own or a normal bland car.  I love that little Fiat.  It's bigger on the inside than it looks from the outside.  From the outside it doesn't look much bigger than a shoe.  I stole that line from Jeremy Clarkson.  He had a blast in the fancy version of my little shoe.  https://vimeo.com/87381823

Ya know Liz.....I think that this is the car for you.  |^|

The problem for me would be bending over to get in....oh, my back!!!!!  :o
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Mugwump on January 21, 2016, 11:55:59 AM
,,remember Ron, that Liz is petite....she'll still think that she's riding in the 'beast'... ;D
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Ron Sower on January 21, 2016, 06:01:48 PM
Quote from: Mugwump on January 21, 2016, 11:55:59 AM
,,remember Ron, that Liz is petite....she'll still think that she's riding in the 'beast'... ;D

I have never met her or seen photos of her, but I know she's feisty and severely independent... a GOOD combination!  ;)
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Mugwump on January 21, 2016, 06:16:10 PM
Quote from: Ron Sower on January 21, 2016, 06:01:48 PM
Quote from: Mugwump on January 21, 2016, 11:55:59 AM
,,remember Ron, that Liz is petite....she'll still think that she's riding in the 'beast'... ;D

I have never met her or seen photos of her, but I know she's feisty and severely independent... a GOOD combination!  ;)

Liz and Barb....

(http://www.mugwump-fish-world.com//index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3520.0;attach=1499;image)
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on January 21, 2016, 09:56:43 PM
I'm 5'3".  I'm considered within the range of average height by the skin of my teeth.  Small is nice.  I can get into close places and do things that big people can't do.  On the other hand, I envy someone who can reach up to do something overhead that I'd need a step ladder for.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on January 21, 2016, 10:49:09 PM
Quote from: Mugwump on January 21, 2016, 09:54:44 AM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on January 20, 2016, 08:39:41 PM
Almost all, anyway.  When I'm not working on dogs or fish cars won't stay out of my head.  I miss my dear Charlotte so much.  I will make a fool of myself and visit her Friday.  I haven't seen her Monday.   

The poor Beast.  I'm selling him down the river :-[  I think about getting getting The Beast all spiffed up and selling him.  I'll ask shiny man how to get the best out of him that I can myself.  I'll show him my buffer and bonnets.  I'll ask him about products.  I could never do a job like he does but I want to do my best.  He'll tell me.  Then I'll give him $10. for having saved me from spending $175. on a job I think he would prefer not to do.  Chip said that it would take him 2 days.  Shiny man doesn't charge much for his time but even at $10. an hour two days work adds up to a lot of money.  The poor beast.

During the time I'm not yearning for Charlotte and worrying about The Beast I'm thinking about buying something new (well new for me).  I wonder if I will buy a little Popemobile of my very own or a normal bland car.  I love that little Fiat.  It's bigger on the inside than it looks from the outside.  From the outside it doesn't look much bigger than a shoe.  I stole that line from Jeremy Clarkson.  He had a blast in the fancy version of my little shoe.  https://vimeo.com/87381823

Ya know Liz.....I think that this is the car for you.  |^|

I think you are right, Mug.  This car is what I must have.  Now to find one here in BFN.  I will make it happen. 

I have followed my head as well as my heart on this one.  I saw the little shoe and fell in love with it's style.  Then I read the reviews and they say it's great! 
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Rjb3 on January 22, 2016, 05:40:19 AM
http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?sourceContext=&newSearchFromOverviewPage=true&inventorySearchWidgetType=AUTO&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=d1327&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity2=&zip=39459&distance=75&searchChanged=true&modelChanged=false&filtersModified=true#listing=129241573

There's a red one just 59 miles away . . . . .
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on January 22, 2016, 02:23:20 PM
I saw that one My Captain.  I have to recover from Charlotte's repair, sell The Beast, and save up for a few months before I can think about buying.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Barb on January 22, 2016, 06:34:30 PM
She is a pretty little thing Liz, if you get her, I think you should name her Val, short for Valentine, since you will be getting her about then.  You deserve a nice valentine's gift to yourself, don't you think?
Barb
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on January 25, 2016, 06:56:48 PM
I nixed the little red one.  It's an automatic.  But lookie here what I found just down the interstate in Metairie.  It an actual Abarth...It's turbocharged.  It is a real sports car.  It's more than I want to spend but it has my heart beating fast again.  I'll take it slow.  I'll drive down in Charlotte Monday and take a look-see and do a little price talking.  I won't pay as much as they're asking.  http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?sourceContext=usedPaidSearchNoZip&newSearchFromOverviewPage=true&inventorySearchWidgetType=AUTO&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=m98&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity2=&zip=39459&distance=150&searchChanged=true&modelChanged=true&filtersModified=true#listing=133353825_isFeatured
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on January 25, 2016, 07:43:14 PM
Another killer review of the Abarth  http://www.topspeed.com/cars/fiat/2014-fiat-500-abarth-ar160256.html#main
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Mugwump on January 25, 2016, 07:59:38 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on January 25, 2016, 07:43:14 PM
Another killer review of the Abarth  http://www.topspeed.com/cars/fiat/2014-fiat-500-abarth-ar160256.html#main

VVVVRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.....thar she goes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on January 25, 2016, 08:05:58 PM
Small in size but huge in heart.  Here I go falling in love again w!w
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Rjb3 on January 25, 2016, 08:07:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKKP_cZuk54
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Mugwump on January 25, 2016, 08:11:46 PM
..more like the 'Fiat song'...yup


Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Rjb3 on January 25, 2016, 08:13:42 PM
Ooops. I thought the Fiat Abarth had a 409.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on January 25, 2016, 08:49:32 PM
Quote from: Mugwump on January 25, 2016, 08:11:46 PM
..more like the 'Fiat song'...yup




You nailed it, Mug.  The little car is very sexy.  Did you see Charlie driving in circles in The black one with red trim, just like the one I'm in love with?  The black and red are wonderful together.  So much masculinity in a car that is so feminine, how cool!  And then there is the sound she makes. I want to hear her say vrooom.  I want to hear her growl to me that she is a really a Lamborghini.  I wish I could drive her hard and see what she and I could do.

A 65 year old woman living in BFN down a long dirt driveway should want a Corolla.  But you know how it is...The heart wants what the heart wants.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on January 26, 2016, 04:34:30 PM
I checked the box where it says "contact me if the price drops".  I had to include my phone number for my request to go through.  I was down in the fish room fixin' to do WC when a guy from the dealership called.  I told the gentleman that I just wanted to be informed of price drops..  He said that he did email me (it hasn't come through yet) with the internet price which I suppose is lower huh  They take trade in's.  I told him about The Beast.  I was totally honest which is not the way they say you should be with car dealers.  He said that The Beast was too old for them to keep and sell on the lot anyway.  He will go to a car auction :( but that they would do what they could for me.  I really want him to be worth 2 grand as a trade in.

I need to get my money in order and drive through New Orleans on highways I'm not familiar with in The Beast.  I've become such a country bumpkin.  I'm such a sissy girl.  I'm afraid of everything.  I am afraid that I will buy the car even though my heart years for that car.  My head is in a turmoil.  I keep thinking that I must be crazy.  I should want a Corolla, but no.  I want a sexy little Italian sports car.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: GeorgeG on January 26, 2016, 06:13:13 PM
Don't do something you will regret later car dealers are unmerciful when it comes to a sale. Hold out   huh
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Ron Sower on January 26, 2016, 06:19:21 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on January 26, 2016, 04:34:30 PM
... I am afraid that I will buy the car even though my heart years for that car.  My head is in a turmoil.  I keep thinking that I must be crazy.  I should want a Corolla, but no.  I want a sexy little Italian sports car.

You don't strike me as being afraid of ANYthing, Miz Liz!
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on January 26, 2016, 06:58:03 PM
I will do the best I can for myself, George.

Ron, I do my best to keep my fears hidden.  Give me a crisis and I can handle it in excellent form.  Something that involves planning and negotiation and keeping my cards close to my chest if very difficult for me.  If I'm not happy with the car or the deal I'm offered I can always drive The Beast back home.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on January 27, 2016, 02:26:59 PM
Charlotte's heart just arrived this afternoon.  She will be ready Friday.  I'll have to leave the Beast with BJ to have his brakes fixed so I won't be able to drive him to see that Fiat then.  The following Monday my SIL will be here.  I will have to take a day off work one day next week to see if I can make the deal.

I am a nervous wreck. 
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Mugwump on January 27, 2016, 03:20:01 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on January 27, 2016, 02:26:59 PM
Charlotte's heart just arrived this afternoon.  She will be ready Friday.  I'll have to leave the Beast with BJ to have his brakes fixed so I won't be able to drive him to see that Fiat then.  The following Monday my SIL will be here.  I will have to take a day off work one day next week to see if I can make the deal.

I am a nervous wreck.

...chill out....all is fine  |^|....does your SIL drink beer?.....wine??....or ???..... |^|
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: JR on January 27, 2016, 03:20:11 PM
Liz I would not have told the dealership any thing. I have drove them 500s they are a nice car. You would look great in one. I traded a car in that did not have reverse. Both times I went there I parked so all you had to do was pull out. They test drove it pulled it right back were I had it. I never said a word about it. Got my new f150 and left. Got a call from them before I got home. My dad said you did not tell them about the tranny I said hell no they drove it. Boy was they pissed.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Mugwump on January 27, 2016, 03:22:56 PM
Quote from: JR on January 27, 2016, 03:20:11 PM
Liz I would not have told the dealership any thing. I have drove them 500s they are a nice car. You would look great in one. I traded a car in that did not have reverse. Both times I went there I parked so all you had to do was pull out. They test drove it pulled it right back were I had it. I never said a word about it. Got my new f150 and left. Got a call from them before I got home. My dad said you did not tell them about the tranny I said hell no they drove it. Boy was they pissed.


LOL...yep, they'll stick you if they can too....dealers tho aren't bad...but used car lots suck..
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on January 27, 2016, 03:45:41 PM
This one is a dealership that takes trade ins, not a used car lot.  The Fiat was a trade in.  I had to tell the guy about the rattle in the TC on the van because as soon as they cranked it they'd have heard it.  They'll be sending him to the car auction whether he is perfect or has a noise at idle that does had not affected his performance for 4 years! 

Look at the price of the Fiat and it's very low mileage.  It's an Abarth.  It's a real sports car.  He has already come off $600. on the price.  I know how much money I have and I cannot spend more.  If they give me 2 grand for the Beast I can do it.  If not, then not huh

JR, I sure wish I could take you with me but you're too far away.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: JR on January 27, 2016, 03:59:21 PM
Wish I could go with you Liz. Be careful They will give you 2000 for the van. Make sure they dont put the real price they give you on the backside of the loan. They try that in Ohio all the time. Read all the paper work very carefully take your time if your not sure about something make them explain it till you are happy with it.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on January 27, 2016, 04:10:59 PM
Thank you, JR.  Your advice is the next best thing to having you with me.  I suck at reading paperwork but I will be careful and ask questions about what is over my head this time.  The dealership itself has excellent reviews which is encouraging.  I will do my best for myself that I am able to.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on January 27, 2016, 05:22:34 PM
This guy Jeff that I've been dealing with...I like his style.  He set up an appointment for me at noon Monday, my day off.  I didn't ask for him an appointment.  That was a tad aggressive but not too bad.  He said that if I would be late to email him and that he would to the same for me.  I emailed him that I wouldn't be there Monday, nor the next...that I would try to take off Wed of next week.  He said that was fine and that he will keep in touch.

I see that he is the internet sales and leasing manager.  He is exceptional at it. He comes off as so easy.  I also know that he is dealer and wants to get the most that he can. 

JR got me relaxing about this a good.  I know how much money I will spend.  As long as the FIAT isn't sold will be mine.

Please pray that my flex plate won't fly to pieces while I'm driving to Metaire.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Charlotte on January 27, 2016, 08:38:51 PM
Quote from: Mugwump on January 27, 2016, 03:20:01 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on January 27, 2016, 02:26:59 PM
Charlotte's heart just arrived this afternoon.  She will be ready Friday.  I'll have to leave the Beast with BJ to have his brakes fixed so I won't be able to drive him to see that Fiat then.  The following Monday my SIL will be here.  I will have to take a day off work one day next week to see if I can make the deal.

I am a nervous wreck.

...chill out....all is fine  |^|....does your SIL drink beer?.....wine??....or ???..... |^|

She does not.  She has been through more that I have but she has gotten through everything without the help of booze, nicotine, or any other something.  She is very empathetic.  If I don't buy the Fiat before she gets here I will tell her about the car and also put it on my back burner.  She is more important to me than any car.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: JR on January 27, 2016, 11:32:55 PM
Liz Im not saying it can't happen but i have never seen a ford fly wheel crack. A diesel Fly wheel is pretty beefy. I have seen the nuts that hold the torque converter to the fly wheel come lose. It can make the same type of noise. Back in the day we seen Chevy do this but not ford.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on January 28, 2016, 04:03:43 PM
This is why I think the most likely cause it the flex plate, but it could be something else.  Noisy TCs seem to be a problem in '99s.  I called the Ford dealer.  He said that the noise was from the TC coming apart.  It that were the case it would have come apart by now.  http://www.powerstroke.org/forum/99-03-7-3-motor-problems/30764-loud-noise-idle.html
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Mugwump on January 28, 2016, 07:56:20 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on January 28, 2016, 04:03:43 PM
This is why I think the most likely cause it the flex plate, but it could be something else.  Noisy TCs seem to be a problem in '99s.  I called the Ford dealer.  He said that the noise was from the TC coming apart. It that were the case it would have come apart by now.  http://www.powerstroke.org/forum/99-03-7-3-motor-problems/30764-loud-noise-idle.html

...or just loose??....can it be repaired by tightening ?....
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on January 29, 2016, 06:18:43 AM
I'll be leaving him with BJ this afternon.  I'll ask him if there is anything that he can see without having to pull the tranny.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on January 29, 2016, 03:21:34 PM
I imagine y'all read what Charlotte had to say about not having her heart yet.  It was a disappointment to me, and  I know they want to get her out because she's been sitting inside since she arrived taking up work space.

Then I saw a guy who lives next door to Chip sitting in his shop chatting with him.  I went over to say hi.  Chip asked about Charlotte and I told him.  Then I told him about the Abarth.  Neither his friend nor he knew what it was.  His friend didn't even know what a Fiat 500 was until Chip told him that it was like the car that someone they know had for sale. I told Chip that the Abarth made 160 hp from the little 4 banger.  All of a sudden he got hot to work on it.  I said, "the car has 12,000 miles. You will only change the oil."  I pointed at him and said, "what you want to do is drive it." 

I hope I don't miss out on this car.  I never imagined that a Fiat 500 Abarth would be within my grasp.  I'm still hoping to be able to drive down Wed. (in the rain).
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on January 29, 2016, 06:42:33 PM
I'm afraid that I nixed the Abarth.  I had no choice.  I looked at the Carfax and the only time the previous owner had the oil changed was when he had a tire repaired.  The car had 9,200 miles on it at the time.  I PM'd my car guru, JR and he agreed that this was a huge red flag.  I'm back to searching for the car of my dreams once again.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Ron Sower on January 29, 2016, 06:54:27 PM
Is it plausible the owner did his own oil changes. My father and Lucy's both did their own oil changes until they no longer were physically able. If he's like either of them he may have his own record book. If it's a worn record book, smudged and with different colored inks on the entries of the changes he did, it's likely legit! If not, then maybe not legit.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on January 29, 2016, 07:04:20 PM
If you buy a brand new sports car and register it on Carfax the information is documented.  If you know that the records will be documented why do it yourself?  This engine wants fancy $10. a quart oil (I looked it up).  God knows what they poured into it at the place that fixed the tire ::)  You could be right Ron, but I I think that you are wrong.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Mugwump on January 29, 2016, 07:05:52 PM
...only 9K on the car?....the synthetic oils are rated 5K+ between changes.....but....go with your gut... |^|
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on January 29, 2016, 07:39:45 PM
The car has 12,000 some miles on it.  This was a brand new engine.  It's supposed to get an oil change every 8,000 miles but with a brand new high performance little bitty 4 banger I believe that it is unconscionable to go 9,200 before your first oil change .  I'd have changed it twice at 9,200. 

Yes, this was the car of my dreams.  I also have a good head on my shoulders.  In this instance my head convinced my heart that the Ararth was not a good choice.  As long as my heart and head both agree I'm fine with it.

Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Mugwump on January 29, 2016, 07:53:52 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on January 29, 2016, 07:39:45 PM
The car has 12,000 some miles on it.  This was a brand new engine.  It's supposed to get an oil change every 8,000 miles but with a brand new high performance little bitty 4 banger I believe that it is unconscionable to go 9,200 before your first oil change .  I'd have changed it twice at 9,200. 

Yes, this was the car of my dreams.  I also have a good head on my shoulders.  In this instance my head convinced my heart that the Ararth was not a good choice.  As long as my heart and head both agree I'm fine with it.

When in doubt....trust your gut  |^|     wonder if Carfax lists any oil change place?...not just dealers...?...

you'll find something tho.... ;D |^| ;D
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: JR on January 29, 2016, 07:57:36 PM
As we all know oil is the life of a engine. We get TSB at the shop. Benz and BMW have both sent them out. They recommend 10000 miles between oil changes. they are finding out about 80000 miles they start to burn oil. They contribute this to the 10000 mile oil change. It is very important to use the oil that the manufacture recommends in today's cars. I know I'm not a engineer but I can not agree that 8000 to 10000 miles between oil changes is just wrong. You can't change oil to soon but you can to late. My truck recommends 7500 miles between oil changes I change it every 4000. He may have changed his own but most likely he did not. Most young ppl take them to have the oil changed. You don't know if these are hard miles are not on this car. If he neglected to change the oil when recommend what else did he neglect. Just my thoughts.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Mugwump on January 29, 2016, 08:16:18 PM
Quote from: JR on January 29, 2016, 07:57:36 PM
As we all know oil is the life of a engine. We get TSB at the shop. Benz and BMW have both sent them out. They recommend 10000 miles between oil changes. they are finding out about 80000 miles they start to burn oil. They contribute this to the 10000 mile oil change. It is very important to use the oil that the manufacture recommends in today's cars. I know I'm not a engineer but I can not agree that 8000 to 10000 miles between oil changes is just wrong. You can't change oil to soon but you can to late. My truck recommends 7500 miles between oil changes I change it every 4000. He may have changed his own but most likely he did not. Most young ppl take them to have the oil changed. You don't know if these are hard miles are not on this car. If he neglected to change the oil when recommend what else did he neglect. Just my thoughts.

..can't argue with that....I get mine changed every 4000/5000 too, even tho it's synthetic and rated for many more miles.....I have the a Vortec engine in the Tahoe( 4 bolt main).....I'll get over 300k if I take care of it.....yup...planning on it.... |^|
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Rjb3 on January 29, 2016, 10:03:14 PM
I didn't get as much as I wanted for my Dodge Ram because it was hit while parked when it was brand new. $9000 in damage. All the CarFax said was it was in an accident. The guy at the dealer said they would have to explain that to the new owner. I said have the new owner call me. I'll explain in 15 seconds or less that it was hit by a drunk driver when brand new. They replaced the box and the rear end. Then I drove it 90,000 more miles in the next ten years without a problem.

Two lessons learned. If your brand new vehicle is ever damaged:

1) Don't settle for used parts. My insurance man said let them repair it with used parts. If we hit them, they would settle for used parts. That's Bull.

2) After the repairs are made, have them toss you an extra $3000 for the beating you will take when you trade it in.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on January 30, 2016, 12:35:52 PM
Tell me, gentlemen. Do you think I should have BJ use synthetic oil in Charlotte's new heart?
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Mugwump on January 30, 2016, 01:10:33 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on January 30, 2016, 12:35:52 PM
Tell me, gentlemen. Do you think I should have BJ use synthetic oil in Charlotte's new heart?

It's a bit more expensive, but with Charlotte being rebuilt, new gaskets, etal.........I would....others may disagree.....
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on January 30, 2016, 01:28:49 PM
Thanks.  I'll do it.  I don't mind spending on Charlotte.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: JR on January 30, 2016, 01:41:55 PM
I would also
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Ron Sower on January 30, 2016, 03:52:04 PM
I too would do that!
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on January 30, 2016, 03:57:01 PM
I will call BJ Monday morning and tell him I want synthetic oil in her.  Only the best for my beloved Charlotte.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Mugwump on January 30, 2016, 04:14:38 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on January 30, 2016, 03:57:01 PM
I will call BJ Monday morning and tell him I want synthetic oil in her.  Only the best for my beloved Charlotte.

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Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: wsantia1 on January 30, 2016, 08:09:40 PM
Quote from: Mugwump on January 30, 2016, 04:14:38 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on January 30, 2016, 03:57:01 PM
I will call BJ Monday morning and tell him I want synthetic oil in her.  Only the best for my beloved Charlotte.

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Very good. |^| |^| |^|
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on January 30, 2016, 08:40:22 PM
Don't y'all go blabbing to her about the fancy oil.  I want her to feel it going through her parts and I want to tell her about it myself.  She already thinks more highly of herself than she has any right to.

What about her oil pump?  BJ never mentioned replacing it.  Having it go out would be worse than having the water pump go out.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Ron Sower on January 31, 2016, 01:48:26 AM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on January 30, 2016, 08:40:22 PM
Don't y'all go blabbing to her about the fancy oil.  I want her to feel it going through her parts and I want to tell her about it myself.  She already thinks more highly of herself than she has any right to.

What about her oil pump?  BJ never mentioned replacing it.  Having it go out would be worse than having the water pump go out.

Doesn't she read our posts too?
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Mugwump on January 31, 2016, 04:31:25 AM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on January 30, 2016, 08:40:22 PM
Don't y'all go blabbing to her about the fancy oil.  I want her to feel it going through her parts and I want to tell her about it myself.  She already thinks more highly of herself than she has any right to.

What about her oil pump?  BJ never mentioned replacing it.  Having it go out would be worse than having the water pump go out.

That would be a good idea too.....plus the new gaskets will be put in....
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: GeorgeG on January 31, 2016, 06:58:14 AM
If I had a rebuilder going through my engine they better put a new oil pump in her. I would not trust them even if it was a short block a new oil pump is a must especilly if I am giving you a waranty on it.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: BallAquatics on January 31, 2016, 12:05:01 PM
If I drove lots of miles every year, or made lots of very short trips, I'd be tempted to go with synthetic oil, otherwise not it's not very practical or economical.

Dennis
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on January 31, 2016, 01:08:49 PM
I neither drive long miles or make many short trips.  I mostly drive 12 miles to work and 12 miles back home. 

I don't know Charlotte's oil capacity but I bet it's not more that 5 quarts.  And synthetic is the best stuff, and I don't mind spending on Charlotte, and I can afford it, and it will make me feel like I'm doing the best I can for her.  I've made up my mind.  I bet you are right but my decision was more emotional than logical, Mr. Spock ;)
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on January 31, 2016, 01:30:49 PM
Quote from: Ron Sower on January 31, 2016, 01:48:26 AM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on January 30, 2016, 08:40:22 PM
Don't y'all go blabbing to her about the fancy oil.  I want her to feel it going through her parts and I want to tell her about it myself.  She already thinks more highly of herself than she has any right to.

What about her oil pump?  BJ never mentioned replacing it.  Having it go out would be worse than having the water pump go out.

Doesn't she read our posts too?

Ron, she is too far away to read our posts.  When she's home she get's the gist of what we're saying but that's all.  She doesn't know everything until I get in her and we drive.  Our communication is all non-verbal. 

She knows all about her heart because she and I were both there.  She knows about the new clutch and water pump.  I was beside her when BJ talked about them.  She knows that the reason she is not home now is that one little bushing that is impossible to find did not arrive with her heart.  She looked so lonely and unloved the last time I visited.  She didn't know until BJ showed where the part went and said that he looked everywhere and nobody has that.  She understood but she still looked unhappy when I left without her.

I'll have to tell her that I asked for a new oil pump and synthetic oil for her.  She will be so overjoyed with how much better and stronger she was that she won't get a big head.  She'll be grateful.  Even an old truck wants to be appreciated.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: JR on January 31, 2016, 06:23:56 PM
If they did not put a new oil pump in I would not accept that engine. You don't know what else they half assed. You MUST put a new oil pump in a fresh engine. I'm Sure they did any good engine shop does that with out asking.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Mugwump on January 31, 2016, 06:26:41 PM
Quote from: JR on January 31, 2016, 06:23:56 PM
If they did not put a new oil pump in I would not accept that engine. You don't know what else they half assed. You MUST put a new oil pump in a fresh engine. I'm Sure they did any good engine shop does that with out asking.

+1.... |^|
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on January 31, 2016, 06:27:45 PM
I'll be sure to ask BJ when I call in the morning.  If every good repair shop does that as a matter of course I'll be annoyed If they did not.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Mugwump on January 31, 2016, 06:33:40 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on January 31, 2016, 06:27:45 PM
I'll be sure to ask BJ when I call in the morning.  If every good repair shop does that as a matter of course I'll be annoyed If they did not.

..ask to see the old one.... w!w.....I thought what they got was a rebuilt engine?......not an engine to rebuild....
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on January 31, 2016, 06:39:41 PM
I have faith that they did right.  If not, I'll be pissed.  I'm new at this.  I don't know what gets done without saying.  All I know is that BJ told me about the clutch and water pump.  It wasn't until later that the oil pump came into my mind.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: JR on January 31, 2016, 07:15:26 PM
He may not have the oil pump there Jon. Most engine shops put them in. Liz My shop had very high standards. Some say I was over kill. But I gave a 36 month 36000 mile warranty. Never had one come back on me. This is what you got when you had me rebuild your engine.
Heads were pressure checked milled and magnaflux. All new valve seats valve guides valve springs valves and keepers If rockers had a blue tint they were all changed. Blue means heat.
Block was pressure checked Bored and decked also hot tanked. All new pistons and rods new piston rings new Rod and main bearings. If any rod or main bearing caps had a blue tint they were replaced. Blue means heat. New cam and lifters. new push rods.Timing chain and gears. Crank was ground, New oil pump. All new  seals and gaskets. we also replace t-stat water pump and flushed your cooling system. I sent the heads block and crank out to a machine shop I rebuilt all engines in shop after machine shop was done. I did not trust anybody to rebuild one of my engines. IMHO that is how you rebuild a engine the right way. May be over kill but it works for me.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: BallAquatics on February 01, 2016, 06:58:26 AM
+1  Yep, if your not going to do it right, why bother at all?

I would think that they would list what gets done and what doesn't so you can compare to other rebuild shops.  That's how it used to be around here anyway.

Dennis
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on February 01, 2016, 12:00:58 PM
I canned BJ this morning.  The engine rebuild company did replace the oil pump.  I told him to use synthetic oil.

They're just waiting for my pilot bearing to arrive.  He said today or tomorrow.  It was supposed to be overnighted.  I imagine that if they were able to find one from a parts place it will be in today.  If they have to make one it will be tomorrow.

I know that he wants Charlotte fixed and out of there asap.  He has another car that needs a new heart that is waiting for a spot inside his shop.  Charlotte is costing him money just sitting there for lack of one small part.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Mugwump on February 01, 2016, 12:19:16 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on February 01, 2016, 12:00:58 PM
I canned BJ this morning.  The engine rebuild company did replace the oil pump.  I told him to use synthetic oil.

They're just waiting for my pilot bearing to arrive.  He said today or tomorrow.  It was supposed to be overnighted.  I imagine that if they were able to find one from a parts place it will be in today.  If they have to make one it will be tomorrow.

I know that he wants Charlotte fixed and out of there asap.  He has another car that needs a new heart that is waiting for a spot inside his shop.  Charlotte is costing him money just sitting there for lack of one small part.

Freudian slip ??......LOL
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on February 01, 2016, 12:47:11 PM
No, just a typo.  I know that BJ is no JR but he has put up with me and has never made me feel like a PITA.  Anyone who visits her sick car twice a week is a PITA.  He seems to take care of detail.  He knows that I want the best for Charlotte so I expect him to be meticulous.  The nice thing about a one horse town is that word of mouth is everything.  I have a local business.  My reputation is good.  He most certainly doesn't want me talking bad about him if he does a job that I'm not happy with.   

I like Chip.  He is talented and resourceful.  He likes old cars especially GM's.  He's a little difficult though because he's a little lazy, and has more work than he can handle, and doesn't want to hire help, so he can pick and choose what he works on.  He just sends the others across the street to BJ.  His brother, Shiny Man works with him sometimes but nobody else.  He's like me.  He doesn't want to supervise someone else's work.

I think that Shiny man flew the coop again.  Chip has his dog and I have seen neither hide nor hair of Shiny man.  Skip told me that he was a "here today, gone tomorrow" kinda guy.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on February 01, 2016, 02:10:42 PM
I found this one. I don't like it as much as the black one and the guy with the black one knows who I am and the car I want after just one previous conversation.  The guy with the red one had to look up the fiat I was interested in (they have 2.  Only one is an Abarth).  He asked if he could call me back because he had a customer in front of him.  I understand that but he's not as good as the guy with the black one.

My concern with the red one is the same as is was with the black one.  I read the carfax and the service records are lacking.  It said that previous owner of the red one never had it's oil changed.  The guy with the red one said that oil changes aren't recorded if it's done at a quicky lube or some place like that.

I called the guy with the black one who always focuses on me when I talk to him.  It may have been a line of bull, but when told him about my concern about the oil changes he said that oil changes are often not reported and that he knows the guy personally who traded in the Abarth for something with a softer ride.  He said that the guy takes care of his cars. 

The guy with the red one called me back.  The red one has over twice the miles and is 2 grand more and he only offered me $1000. for The Beast when I told him of the TC noise.  And they are a used car lot.

JR tells me not to risk buying the black one but knowing what I know about carfax, I'm leaning toward it.

Here's the red one.  Not nearly as sexy as the black one.  http://www.carfax.com/vehicles/3C3CFFJH6DT665100-used-2013-fiat-500-abarth--pelham
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Mugwump on February 01, 2016, 02:18:19 PM
..looks like Bob/Gale's.....
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on February 01, 2016, 02:29:17 PM
Their's is a POP.  The ones that I want are Abarth's.  They may look the same but one is a very good car and the other is a very good sports car.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on February 01, 2016, 03:18:22 PM
Dang. Six pages of my car stuff ::)  I really need to become less obsessed.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Mugwump on February 01, 2016, 03:51:02 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on February 01, 2016, 03:18:22 PM
Dang. Six pages of my car stuff ::)  I really need to become less obsessed.


LOL...........

Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on February 01, 2016, 04:24:40 PM
Thanks Mug.  You just made my obsession more powerful.  Much appreciated but what I need to relax about it. 

Here's the black one with low mileage that my heart longs for.  The guy dropped the price to $12,995.  The car has has net yet sold. JR says that he should give me 2 grand for The Beast.  If the dealer does that I can buy the Abarth.  If not, then not.  I am on pins and needles. 
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Mugwump on February 01, 2016, 04:51:47 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on February 01, 2016, 04:24:40 PM
Thanks Mug.  You just made my obsession more powerful.  Much appreciated but what I need to relax about it. 

Here's the black one with low mileage that my heart longs for.  The guy dropped the price to $12,995.  The car has has net yet sold. JR says that he should give me 2 grand for The Beast.  If the dealer does that I can buy the Abarth.  If not, then not.  I am on pins and needles.

,,,Tell them you need need the $2k for the beast...and at that price too.....you'll get it....they want to sell.....always
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on February 01, 2016, 05:06:42 PM
I don't want to miss out on it but the longer it sits on the lot, the more is in my favor. I will have to drive down in The Beast t look at it and I can't do that until Charlolette is home and BJ fixes the brakes on The Beast.  My SIL will arrive Saturday and driving far to look at a used car will not be her cup of tea.  I'll have to play it by ear and hope for the best. My heart wants this one. It is a work of art.  http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=m98&radius=150&zip=39459&trimNames=NONE_NONE&colors=NONE_NONE#listing=133353825_isFeatured
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Mugwump on February 01, 2016, 05:43:59 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on February 01, 2016, 05:06:42 PM
I don't want to miss out on it but the longer it sits on the lot, the more is in my favor. I will have to drive down in The Beast t look at it and I can't do that until Charlolette is home and BJ fixes the brakes on The Beast.  My SIL will arrive Saturday and driving far to look at a used car will not be her cup of tea.  I'll have to play it by ear and hope for the best. My heart wants this one. It is a work of art.  http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=m98&radius=150&zip=39459&trimNames=NONE_NONE&colors=NONE_NONE#listing=133353825_isFeatured

..it is as it shall be...........................good luck w!w
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on February 01, 2016, 06:40:58 PM
I just spoke to my SIL.  She said that driving far to shop for a car is fine with her.  She said that she no longer enjoys shopping in department stores because her knees are shot and the pain of walking involved isn't worth it.  I've never known her to tell me something not true.  She will need my step ladder and a hand to get in and out of The Beast.  I have both. 

I wish I could do it this week, before she arrives but I need Charlotte back first, and I must feel confident that The Beast's brakes won't betray me.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Ron Sower on February 01, 2016, 09:29:53 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on February 01, 2016, 06:40:58 PM
I just spoke to my SIL.  She said that driving far to shop for a car is fine with her.  She said that she no longer enjoys shopping in department stores because her knees are shot and the pain of walking involved isn't worth it.  I've never known her to tell me something not true.  She will need my step ladder and a hand to get in and out of The Beast.  I have both. 

I wish I could do it this week, before she arrives but I need Charlotte back first, and I must feel confident that The Beast's brakes won't betray me.

Sounds like the 2 of you get along pretty well and you would probably enjoy the company. I do appreciate exactly what she says, means, and feels about shopping with the pain of walking. I have similar issues, especially when just shuffle-shopping (moving slowly while someone is touching and looking at every item on the shelves)! The back, sciatic, and foot pains is are killer for that kind of outing.

When the 6 of us go to dinner in Burban, I laugh about getting a step ladder for the short people to get in and out. Our Barbara has the getting out part down well. She turns her body facing out the door and slides to the ground.... |^| Getting in, I open the door for her usually, and she uses the grab handle overhead and pulls herself up...usually at the time I tell her to step it up or I'll goose her! She can move fast!!!!  mim mim
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on February 02, 2016, 01:21:39 PM
Guess whose heart is being put in as I type |^|
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Mugwump on February 02, 2016, 01:43:32 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on February 02, 2016, 01:21:39 PM
Guess whose heart is being put in as I type |^|

+1...... =;-)
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on February 03, 2016, 02:27:19 PM
I see that my blabber mouth truck has already told you everything I was going to tell you ::)

Now, that Charlotte is so prefect I'm having second thoughts about the Fiat.  I know that there are other parts unrelated to the engine that can break on her and force me to have her towed, but I mostly just drive 12 miles to work and 12 miles back home.  Do I really need a fancy low mileage 2013 sports car?  I would have to put a big hurtin' on the money I don't allow myself to touch.  I've heard of people being "land poor" this FIAT would make me "car poor". 

I left The Beast with BJ to have the brakes fixed but I won't drive to Metarie with my SIL next week to do the deal.  I will sleep on it for a while.  Charlotte cost more than I expected and if I can get 3 grand for The Beast by selling him myself it might be the most logical way to go.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Ron Sower on February 03, 2016, 02:39:44 PM
Ya know...If Charlotte is healthy enough to take care of 90% of your needs, you might think about renting a new car to take long trips with. Then you only spend the money when you need too, and you still have your stash of money for when you need it. How close is the nearest rental company?  So when you get the desire for a ''new ride'' go rent one. I guarantee you'll love getting back into Charlotte when you get home. I always did with Fishmobile and do now with  Burban. mim
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Ron Sower on February 03, 2016, 02:41:26 PM
Oh...and don't be too hard on her for being all excited about being home and telling us all about it. She's not a blabbermouth, just excited to have her youth back and to be with you. That's a good thing, MOM!  ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Mugwump on February 03, 2016, 02:42:06 PM
Yes, she gave us the great news.... |^|.....you two make a good pair... ;D
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on February 03, 2016, 03:21:17 PM
Quote from: Ron Sower on February 03, 2016, 02:39:44 PM
Ya know...If Charlotte is healthy enough to take care of 90% of your needs, you might think about renting a new car to take long trips with. Then you only spend the money when you need too, and you still have your stash of money for when you need it. How close is the nearest rental company?  So when you get the desire for a ''new ride'' go rent one. I guarantee you'll love getting back into Charlotte when you get home. I always did with Fishmobile and do now with  Burban. mim

The nearest rental place is 15 miles away, but if Charlotte breaks and needs towing and can't be fixed the same day they will have to either deliver, or I will have to hitch hike or ask for a favor.  I've never been good at asking for favors and I'm getting worse.  I believe that I should be able to do for myself.  Once a year I drive to Jackson which is only 1 1/2 hrs away.  It's just to watch a goat show and see a good friend again.  I would love to drive Charlotte to northern TN in July to meet up with Dottie and head to Chicago in her vehicle, but it would be less stressful to rent a car.

Thanks for the advice.  Barb called just a minute ago and agrees that my thinking is solid.  I still may change my mind.  I don't think I will.   My logical side is not what I like most about about myself, but it comes on strong when I need it to.  If not for my sensible side, when the the passion came over me I would follow it, and I would end up in a huge mess.  Life on earth is different from life on the wonderful the planet Transsexual Transylvania where all you need to do is follow your heart.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on February 03, 2016, 06:30:52 PM
Oh my...the guy from the dealership just emailed.  He said he would be in touch.  I had to tell him that even though my heart wanted the Abarth, that I had changed my mind.  I didn't go into any detail.  I did tell him that I would leave him positive feedback On Car Gurus where I found the car.  I will do it now.

I would love to have a sports care again, and that FIAT would be perfect.  My dang mind put my heart in it's place.  I hate it when that happens, but my mind sometimes knows what's best for me huh
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Mugwump on February 03, 2016, 06:44:41 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on February 03, 2016, 06:30:52 PM
Oh my...the guy from the dealership just emailed.  He said he would be in touch.  I had to tell him that even though my heart wanted the Abarth, that I had changed my mind.  I didn't go into any detail.  I did tell him that I would leave him positive feedback On Car Gurus where I found the car.  I will do it now.

I would love to have a sports care again, and that FIAT would be perfect.  My dang mind put my heart in it's place.  I hate it when that happens, but my mind sometimes knows what's best for me huh

LOL...he knows you want it too..... 2c2
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on February 03, 2016, 07:04:53 PM
Yes, he knows.  It's his job to be able to tell when a prospective buyer is being tugged by her heart.  He is very very good.  I like a man who is good at what he does.  Yes, I want that car with all my heart.  No. I will not buy it.  I need the money that I don't touch for when I'm old and worn out and can no longer work.  My heart would run away with me and spend everything up if my head didn't keep it in check.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Ron Sower on February 03, 2016, 07:20:40 PM
I, for one and along with others, think you're on the right track, Liz. But I would say that I've begun to ask for favors and it's nice to know that you have friends you may not even know yet that will provide those favors. And sometime in the future you can pay back the favor to them, or in some cases to someone they know that needs one. The best part is that in doing that they get to feel good about helping someone and you will too.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: LizStreithorst on February 03, 2016, 09:06:43 PM
Ron, it's easier for me to do favors than to receive them.  I know that you are right.  I shall try to be better at receiving and even asking when people they offer.  I guess it's time that this Streithorst got off her highhorst.  No man is an island.
Title: Re: All I think about is cars
Post by: Mugwump on February 04, 2016, 06:45:09 AM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on February 03, 2016, 09:06:43 PM
Ron, it's easier for me to do favors than to receive them.  I know that you are right.  I shall try to be better at receiving and even asking when people they offer.  I guess it's time that this Streithorst got off her highhorst.  No man is an island.

+1....