....adding a thumbs up emoticon ( or whatever you call those things)! ;)
Quote from: Ron Sower on August 20, 2015, 02:46:34 PM
....adding a thumbs up emoticon ( or whatever you call those things)! ;)
Like the one I put on your subject line...??.....when you read this look to the left of your subject line.....hover mouse over it/click it....see the choices ??...
Quote from: Mugwump on August 20, 2015, 03:03:33 PM
Quote from: Ron Sower on August 20, 2015, 02:46:34 PM
....adding a thumbs up emoticon ( or whatever you call those things)! ;)
Like the one I put on your subject line...??.....when you read this look to the left of your subject line.....hover mouse over it/click it....see the choices ??...
That's a good one! I like the thumb.. :D
Quote from: Ron Sower on August 20, 2015, 03:12:51 PM
Quote from: Mugwump on August 20, 2015, 03:03:33 PM
Quote from: Ron Sower on August 20, 2015, 02:46:34 PM
....adding a thumbs up emoticon ( or whatever you call those things)! ;)
Like the one I put on your subject line...??.....when you read this look to the left of your subject line.....hover mouse over it/click it....see the choices ??...
That's a good one! I like the thumb.. :D
....it's always been there..... 8)
Hmm I didn't know it was there either. It's nice that I can do a thumbs up. Stupid question, but can other people see if you did a thumb up?
..of course.....................
Is the thumbs up for the "Subject" only or can it be used in the body of a reply? 👍 This one is from my keyboard. It doesn't show up in the preview pane...only in the the submitted reply.
Quote from: PaulineMi on August 21, 2015, 08:35:59 AM
Is the thumbs up for the "Subject" only or can it be used in the body of a reply? 👍 This one is from my keyboard. It doesn't show up in the preview pane...only in the the submitted reply.
I believe it's just for the thread itself....(subject)................it's the best we have right now...........'like' buttons are for facebook... w!w...we usually make a comment here tho.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Ask and you shall receive..... |^|
How's this one grab ya? |^|
Dennis
LOL....... w!w |^|
Good one Dennis |^| lol
Quote from: BallAquatics on August 21, 2015, 12:30:42 PM
Ask and you shall receive..... |^|
Can I have a million dollars?
Quote from: big b on August 21, 2015, 10:23:00 PM
Quote from: BallAquatics on August 21, 2015, 12:30:42 PM
Ask and you shall receive..... |^|
Can I have a million dollars?
Sure. Stay in school. Get a good education. Go to college. Work 50+ years at $10/hour and you'll have earned $1.04 million dollars. IRS will of course confiscate a majority of it.
Great advise Graphic.
I believe anyone can have anything they want if they wish to put in the effort required. There are some limitations based on your physical abilities.....
Looking back on life, I can't recall not having or doing the things that I REALLY wanted.
Dennis
That works for me! |^|
I was not a good student in any way, shape or form. At 55 I still don't have a GED. I failed English and gym. My biggest hurdle was always math yet I took what back then were called "Regents" courses. Since math was my worst subject I taught myself workarounds then took the harder courses to push myself. BTW I still can't remember the entire multiplication table. Yet I am still pretty quick at figuring out the result.
I did go back the next year to make up the courses. But girls seemed more important.
BTW I wasn't dumb or stupid. Quite the opposite in fact. I was tested at 145 for IQ and on the ASVBTs we took in high school I scored in the top 1% in every subject. Except clerical. Mostly it was boredom. Books we were given two weeks to read I read that night. And the English language is something I've had to be not just good at but exceptional at because of my work. I still don't care about gym.
And BB while do have a degree in physics it is because I was a Dean's list student that when it came time to sign that degree by the dean my lack of a GED or HS diploma fell through the cracks so to speak. While that matter was irrelevant after I got the degree I wouldn't expect for most people to get that fortunate.
And BB, a high IQ or scoring high on some inane test is pretty much meaningless. I know many of the people I went to school with who have far surpassed what I have done. I can't say if they are happier or not though.
I pretty much knew what I wanted to do in 5th grade. And I'm still doing it. I started out in a darkroom formulating my own developers and film coatings. Only thing that has changed is Photoshop is my darkroom now. And I'm fairly good with it.
Find what you like doing and do it.
Quote from: GraphicGr8s on August 22, 2015, 02:08:34 PMFind what you like doing and do it.
I am doing it right now. Fish are a hobby for now but I plan for them to become more then just a hobby :).
Quote from: GraphicGr8s on August 22, 2015, 02:08:34 PM
I was not a good student in any way, shape or form. At 55 I still don't have a GED. I failed English and gym. My biggest hurdle was always math yet I took what back then were called "Regents" courses. Since math was my worst subject I taught myself workarounds then took the harder courses to push myself. BTW I still can't remember the entire multiplication table. Yet I am still pretty quick at figuring out the result.
I did go back the next year to make up the courses. But girls seemed more important.
BTW I wasn't dumb or stupid. Quite the opposite in fact. I was tested at 145 for IQ and on the ASVBTs we took in high school I scored in the top 1% in every subject. Except clerical. Mostly it was boredom. Books we were given two weeks to read I read that night. And the English language is something I've had to be not just good at but exceptional at because of my work. I still don't care about gym.
And BB while do have a degree in physics it is because I was a Dean's list student that when it came time to sign that degree by the dean my lack of a GED or HS diploma fell through the cracks so to speak. While that matter was irrelevant after I got the degree I wouldn't expect for most people to get that fortunate.
And BB, a high IQ or scoring high on some inane test is pretty much meaningless. I know many of the people I went to school with who have far surpassed what I have done. I can't say if they are happier or not though.
I pretty much knew what I wanted to do in 5th grade. And I'm still doing it. I started out in a darkroom formulating my own developers and film coatings. Only thing that has changed is Photoshop is my darkroom now. And I'm fairly good with it.
Find what you like doing and do it.
That is wonderful. I graduated high school because in those days they just pushed you through and gave you the degree. I was sent off to an American university in Mexico where I got a great education by auditing classes. The education part wasn't important to my family. I was sent so that I could find a suitable husband, the thinking being that I would find one at an expensive college in another country ::) I failed at that too ;D ;D ;D
It took me a long while to find my own way. I ended up doing what I loved when I was a kid. I'm happy. I consider myself successful. What is it about if it's not about following your heart?
Quote from: big b on August 22, 2015, 04:15:28 PM
Quote from: GraphicGr8s on August 22, 2015, 02:08:34 PMFind what you like doing and do it.
I am doing it right now. Fish are a hobby for now but I plan for them to become more then just a hobby :).
Then take the courses that lead you in that direction.
Having had family in the fish farming business (1950-1980) and being an avid hobbyist for over 34 years I'd tell my friends to keep it as a hobby and a bit more but find a job to put food on the table and pay the rent. Farms like Segrest and Ekk Will have mega money behind them. We rarely see the high quality fish here. Most are sent overseas where they get the big money.
Just as an example. Some of the best citrus is Indian River. It is grown here in Florida on the east coast. We can't buy it here. It's all shipped out of state. In many cases you can buy better citrus than I can and I live here where it's grown.
Thanks graphic, I actually have a list of potential careers I think I could do.
1 Ichthyologist
2 Herpetologist
3 grease monkey.
I am going to try to take classes in high school for both ichthyologist and Herpetologist if I can. If I don't make it as a ichthyologist then I can fall back on Herpetology. Or vice versa.
Be careful. Grease monkey is a derogatory remark. It is "automotive technologist"
Quote from: GraphicGr8s on August 22, 2015, 10:21:38 PM
Be careful. Grease monkey is a derogatory remark. It is "automotive technologist"
Oops I didn't know that. I always thought it was a sign of respect to be called that.
Was just kidding. But today's mechanic needs to be able to do more than turn a wrench and swap parts. Now you need computer skills to do many things and the average shade tree mechanic is lost on many of those things.
I bought a lot of the programs a few years ago yet I hate working on my own car. I don't want to keep up with it. Now if I ever get my fav car that's a different story. Car lift gets bought.
Quote from: GraphicGr8s on August 22, 2015, 10:46:19 PMNow you need computer skills to do many things and the average shade tree mechanic is lost on many of those things.
Time to find another thing I want to do for a job >:(. I am NOT good with computers.
You have to not mind sweating in the heat and freezing in the cold either. The shops I frequent are not temperature controlled. They'll have big fans heaters they just make the heat and cold tolerable. May be it's different up north. Good mechanics don't get enough respect, IMO. I love Chip, Charlotte's man, and Mr. Berkin, The Beast's man.
QuoteI am NOT good with computers.
You are good enough to be on this forum and probably other things i would guess.
The more you use them the better you will become with them.
Computers are becoming more involved with everything, especially science, but not necessarily in a complicated, behind the scenes way.
It would be more like turn on the computer, get some programs going, enter data, look at some result.
The more complex stuff is understanding what is going on with your particular subject of interest and making use of the computer to achieve your ends.
Don't let them intimidate you. There are always helpful people around (like Dennis) who can point you in the right direction. Particularly in scientific or technical fields.
I don't even know how to print stuff ::).
Quote from: big b on August 24, 2015, 05:42:36 AM
I don't even know how to print stuff ::).
What Bill said.
*sighs* I suppose I better start learning how to use computers then.
Quote from: big b on August 24, 2015, 11:03:17 PM
*sighs* I suppose I better start learning how to use computers then.
LOL Cheer up. Learning something new is always an adventure! ;)
Dennis
You got plenty of time.
When I was your age, personal computers had not yet been invented.
Quote from: BillT on August 25, 2015, 01:51:30 PM
You got plenty of time.
When I was your age, personal computers had not yet been invented.
Hell when I was in the computer club in high school we programmed in Fortran to a computer via modem to tape.
Then came video games. You tuned to channel 3 to play pong.
QuoteHell when I was in the computer club in high school we programmed in Fortran to a computer via modem to tape.
Did that as an undergrad, except we used punchcards. Guess I'm older.
Quote from: BillT on August 25, 2015, 01:51:30 PM
When I was your age, personal computers had not yet been invented.
Really, Bill. Did you REALLY have to bring that up? And I was just starting to feel young again....!! :( :(
What about the invention of black and white TV? :-\
Quote from: Ron Sower on August 25, 2015, 04:56:44 PM
Quote from: BillT on August 25, 2015, 01:51:30 PM
When I was your age, personal computers had not yet been invented.
Really, Bill. Did you REALLY have to bring that up? And I was just starting to feel young again....!! :( :(
What about the invention of black and white TV? :-\
My Dad helped design the 'RCA 630 TS television C 1946-1947' which was the first mass produced TV for RCA, in Indianapolis.... ;D Years later, early 50's, we had a Sylvania TV with 'Halo Light'
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/LdqMKdGUn1o/hqdefault.jpg)
We had B&W TV when I was a kid.
Then we got color, exciting!
When young, my kids refused to watch any B&W films. No Casablanca, No Marx Bros, ...!!!
first good color shows weren't all that good.....until maybe Bonanza, Disney, Rocky Bullwinkle, etc.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D....and sports..
Yell yall just be having a good ol' conversation ain't ya? |^|
That's what we're all about BB.
Quote from: big b on August 25, 2015, 06:51:48 PM
Yell yall just be having a good ol' conversation ain't ya? |^|
They were times of advances in technology...a fun and interesting era....FM blew our socks off....TV signals were AM...the sound FM, no static at all.... ;D
I think it is cool that I am apart of a "older" community, it gives me many chances to learn new things about the past.
Quote from: big b on August 25, 2015, 07:21:39 PM
I think it is cool that I am apart of a "older" community, it gives me many chances to learn new things about the past.
We're not all 'older'.....quite a few younger folks that roll through occasionally.....Dylan, Melanie, etc....and they're not much older than you..I think "Owl' turns 17 next week..??
The folks here never stop learning either..... ;D that's likely why our knowledge base is pretty diverse....some real intelligent people...
Ok I suppose you're right.
Quote from: BillT on August 25, 2015, 03:42:20 PM
QuoteHell when I was in the computer club in high school we programmed in Fortran to a computer via modem to tape.
Did that as an undergrad, except we used punchcards. Guess I'm older.
Yes you are. Decades older. Many decades older. :P
If one were to really think about it this last generation really hasn't invented too much. They've improved things but no real inventiveness.
We haven't invented much because all the good ideas were taken or in Japan.
In my opinion, the rate of technological change seems to be accelerating. Its just that a lot of it is not so obvious unless you seek it out. Or its ignored because you are already used to it or perhaps have become used to constant change.
Here are some advances since I was born that I think are significant (of course this limited to my interests and what I recall quickly):
? Structure and functioning of DNA (and molecular genetics in general): 1953 (year I was born) and later.
? Transisters, Integrated Circuits etc. (50's, 60's, 70's).
? Cladisitics: a powerful and much more objective approach to deciding evolutionary relationships (50's I think in Germany, but not till maybe the 70's in the US).
? A better understanding of plate tectonics, continental drift, and the age of the planet's surface.
? The Hubble Space Telescope and all the cool stuff it has lead to: a black hole at the center of ever galaxy, dark energy, the large size and numbers of the Universe.
? The huge numbers of planets being found orbiting other stars. I think it is now expected that on average, any given star will have a planet orbiting it. This information is accumulating at an accelerating rate.
? The finding of water and organic chemicals (required for life as we know it) by space probes, all over the place, in our solar system. Also a greater understanding of planetary diversity.
? Mars rovers: Evidence of past conditions adequate for life.
? Confocal microscopy: allow us to see through tissue where we could not see before (1990's?).
? Super-resolution microscopy: see things smaller than the former theoretical limits of the wavelength of light. Based on computer analysis of collected light as well as non-transmission optics, thereby avoiding wavelength limitations.
? Development of a much better genetic, cellular, and molecular understanding of development (1980 and on). This would include things like a Saturation Mutagenesis of embryonic development. That means collecting as many mutations as you can that effect embryonic development, until you start getting repeats of mutations of the same gene over and over. This is when you have reached saturation. You have therefore identified most of the genes affecting the development of some embryonic feature. The rules driving embryonic development determine the adult form and function and which in turn, through the developed form and function of the brain, drive behavior and psychology.
? Complete genome sequencing (90's and on).
? Increased computer capabilities to compare different species by comparing their entire genomes. (just in the last few years). Having 2 billion sites (base pairs) to compare in each species, in ever gene, genome comparisons can reveal much more subtle relationships, like interbreeding among the swordtail speciesas they evolved apart).
? Genome transformation (making genetically modified organisms), especially now using the Crisper method. Crisper pretty much lets you do what you want if you know the sequences involved. (last few years)
? 3D printing (since 80's, personal for ~10 years)
? A better understanding of global warming.
? MRI's, functional MRI's, CAT scans (70's through the 2000's); better understanding of brain function.
? GIS and things like Google Earth.
? Internet stuff in general.
? 3D animation.
? Dark Matter and Dark Energy
In recent years, it seem to me, cool advances have been coming along even faster by taking two cool things and combining them to something even cooler.
I find this stuff very exciting.
Sadly, there is an absolute zero.
Quote from: big b on August 25, 2015, 09:02:12 PM
We haven't invented much because all the good ideas were taken or in Japan.
....balderdash......not so....
Bill, I was referring to actual inventions. Like radio and TV. Many of the things we think were developed today were actually done in the 60.
And now we can't even put another man on the moon.
Yes, homo sapiens is very industrious..... obesity now kills more people than hunger.....
I've read more than once, that 1969 was the height of human achievement.
It will be very interesting to see if climate change will pull us togerher as a species or if we let religious beliefs end us all. Just imagine, thousands of years into the furure, archeologists trying to solve the mystery of why these ancient beings allowed tribal feuding over imaginary beings to end their race.
Dennis
Quote from: GraphicGr8s on August 26, 2015, 10:31:15 AM
Bill, I was referring to actual inventions. Like radio and TV. Many of the things we think were developed today were actually done in the 60.
And now we can't even put another man on the moon.
'can't' ???...or simply don't need/want to....?.....heck they just pin-point landed on an asteroid...LOL.....
Quote from: Mugwump on August 26, 2015, 11:59:19 AM
Quote from: GraphicGr8s on August 26, 2015, 10:31:15 AM
Bill, I was referring to actual inventions. Like radio and TV. Many of the things we think were developed today were actually done in the 60.
And now we can't even put another man on the moon.
So? We landed on the moon. With the computing power of basically a Commodore 64.
'can't' ???...or simply don't need/want to....?.....heck they just pin-point landed on an asteroid...LOL.....
Quote from: GraphicGr8s on August 26, 2015, 12:04:41 PM
Quote from: Mugwump on August 26, 2015, 11:59:19 AM
Quote from: GraphicGr8s on August 26, 2015, 10:31:15 AM
Bill, I was referring to actual inventions. Like radio and TV. Many of the things we think were developed today were actually done in the 60.
And now we can't even put another man on the moon.
So? We landed on the moon. With the computing power of basically a Commodore 64.
'can't' ???...or simply don't need/want to....?.....heck they just pin-point landed on an asteroid...LOL.....
...LOL....So? you knew that.....now what?.. w!w
What I am saying is there is really nothing much new under the sun. Most if not all the stuff we have traces back to stuff invented by the earlier generation. Nothing really new, like TV is being invented.
Not all perhaps, but many on that list are inventions.
On the other thing, almost everything traces back to something else.
Oh, I forgot:
? PCR (polymerase chain reaction) an important invention for studying very small numbers of DNA molecules. invented by a surfer scientist in Hiwaii in 1985, he got a Nobel prise
? Ability to sequence DNA genomes from ancient organisms, including human ancestors (2000's +)
Quote from: GraphicGr8s on August 26, 2015, 12:28:50 PM
What I am saying is there is really nothing much new under the sun. Most if not all the stuff we have traces back to stuff invented by the earlier generation. Nothing really new, like TV is being invented.
a few in here..laser, etc....
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/a341/2078467/ (http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/a341/2078467/)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_inventions_%281946%E2%80%9391%29 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_inventions_%281946%E2%80%9391%29)
http://www.krysstal.com/display_inventions.php?years=After+1950 (http://www.krysstal.com/display_inventions.php?years=After+1950)
Quote from: BillT on August 26, 2015, 01:08:39 PM
? Ability to sequence DNA genomes from ancient organisms, including human ancestors (2000's +)
That's how they found out we cross bred with Neanderthal's isn't it?
Dennis
QuoteThat's how they found out we cross bred with Neanderthal's isn't it?
Yes indeed!
To me, one of the most surprising technological developments in recent years. I was shocked!
Quotea few in here..laser, etc....
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/a341/2078467/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_inventions_%281946%E2%80%9391%29
http://www.krysstal.com/display_inventions.php?years=After+1950
For some reason I thought lasers were invented earlier. Masers would go along with that (Microwave (rather than light) Emission by Stimulated Emission of Radiation).
Also two more rather prosaic ones I like:
? screw drives for hand drills: I consider them to be huge labor savers.
? digital photography: more pictures for less money. Better storage.
1960 for the laser is pretty early.
The first Maser was 1954.
But still in the last 30 years (give or take) nothing really has been "new".
Hell even the STS was 1960s technology.
Here's a really weird invention, combines 3D printing, robots, nano-stuff:
http://www.rdmag.com/news/2015/08/3-d-printed-microscopic-fish-do-more-swim?et_cid=4769597&et_rid=651558105&type=headline (http://www.rdmag.com/news/2015/08/3-d-printed-microscopic-fish-do-more-swim?et_cid=4769597&et_rid=651558105&type=headline)
Quote from: BillT on August 26, 2015, 03:50:32 PM
Here's a really weird invention, combines 3D printing, robots, nano-stuff:
http://www.rdmag.com/news/2015/08/3-d-printed-microscopic-fish-do-more-swim?et_cid=4769597&et_rid=651558105&type=headline (http://www.rdmag.com/news/2015/08/3-d-printed-microscopic-fish-do-more-swim?et_cid=4769597&et_rid=651558105&type=headline)
Heck we had micro fiche way back. Had to use a really small hook and they were too hard to clean. Had to fry up a few hundred just to fill a cavity.
How did we get from a thumbs up emoticon to here anyway?
A la Lake Michigan smelt..... 8)
Not real fond of smelts. Unless they're smoked correctly.
Quote from: GraphicGr8s on August 26, 2015, 06:04:54 PM
Not real fond of smelts. Unless they're smoked correctly.
best is right from the water, to a good batter, then thrown in the deep fryer.....'poppers w!w
Guts and all.
Quote from: GraphicGr8s on August 26, 2015, 06:19:54 PM
Guts and all.
yup.....they're so dang small that you need the 'filler'.... |^|
I miss the smoked eel my father used to make.
Quote from: GraphicGr8s on August 26, 2015, 03:57:38 PM
How did we get from a thumbs up emoticon to here anyway?
I was going to write that same thing when I clicked on page 5 ....