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Title: Rams spawning tonight....!
Post by: Ron Sower on November 06, 2013, 01:14:42 AM
Yep!  A first time for me!  8g Evolve8 tank. 71F. Direct light!
Let's see if the first time parents are good ones!
Title: Re: Rams spawning tonight....!
Post by: Ron Sower on November 06, 2013, 01:30:13 AM
Correction on the temp. It was 74-76F. The pump in the filter compartment keeps that water temperature higher than the room temp.
Title: Re: Rams spawning tonight....!
Post by: Mugwump on November 06, 2013, 05:10:05 AM
Good luck, I hope they do good.
Title: Re: Rams spawning tonight....!
Post by: b125killer on November 06, 2013, 06:02:10 AM
Good luck with them. What kind of rams are they?
Title: Re: Rams spawning tonight....!
Post by: ilroost on November 06, 2013, 10:01:57 AM
Good luck
Title: Re: Rams spawning tonight....!
Post by: Ron Sower on November 06, 2013, 10:10:22 AM
Quote from: b125killer on November 06, 2013, 06:02:10 AM
Good luck with them. What kind of rams are they?

German Blues.

Thanks all.
Title: Re: Rams spawning tonight....!
Post by: Ron Sower on January 26, 2014, 01:32:03 PM
I've had my 3rd spawn of these rams.  The last time the eggs lasted 2 days and this time it's going on 3, but there are fewer on the rock and 1/3 of them are white. I'm assuming they are fungused.  I've done nothing special to treat them; completely leaving it to the parents. I'm thinking on the next spawn I may pull the rock with the eggs and separate to a hatching vessel and treat with meth blue. 

Another possibility is that one of the parents may be infertile. Can anyone tell me a way to determine that? 

Before, I haven't been that concerned whether the spawn made it or not.  I'm just leaving the tank at the ambient 70-72F room temp. But now I'd like to step up the game a bit, so I'll be raising the water temp to 82F or so; still in the Evolve8 aquarium.
Title: Re: Rams spawning tonight....!
Post by: LizStreithorst on January 26, 2014, 01:42:48 PM
Rams do better in higher temps.  82 should be just right for them.
Title: Re: Rams spawning tonight....!
Post by: Ron Sower on January 26, 2014, 01:49:35 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on January 26, 2014, 01:42:48 PM
Rams do better in higher temps.  82 should be just right for them.

They are spawning every 3-3.5 weeks. Liz, do you mean the parents or the eggs when you say ''better''?
Title: Re: Rams spawning tonight....!
Post by: LizStreithorst on January 26, 2014, 02:12:30 PM
I am no expert on GBRs.  The adults so perfectly at Discus temps.  For breeding I wouldn't lower the tank temp to less than 79 for breeding..  I could be wrong. 
Title: Re: Rams spawning tonight....!
Post by: Ron Sower on January 26, 2014, 02:47:31 PM
Thanks.
Title: Re: Rams spawning tonight....!
Post by: BallAquatics on January 26, 2014, 04:33:01 PM
You might need to adjust your water parameters a bit too.  Often, even though the adults will spawn, if the water is too hard or too soft the eggs fail to develop.

Dennis
Title: Re: Rams spawning tonight....!
Post by: LizStreithorst on January 26, 2014, 05:59:27 PM
I think they're like Discus.  There is no such thing as water too soft.  Hardness could well be a factor.  What is your kH?  What is your TDS?
Title: Re: Rams spawning tonight....!
Post by: b125killer on January 26, 2014, 06:10:07 PM
Liz is right. They need soft water to spawn in. With temps around 82. Most GBRs won't parent raise, I think the Bolivian rams do better at parent raising.