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Title: Oryzias woworae - Ricefish
Post by: BallAquatics on November 28, 2013, 10:14:13 PM
Back in the spring, I picked up a bag of these fish at our club swap meet.  I hadn't really done anything with them until a couple of weeks ago.  I started loading them up on live Moina, added some floating horn wort to their tank and stepped up their water changes.

While I was changing some water this afternoon I noticed a female carrying eggs.    ;D ;D ;D

(http://ballaquatics.com/ba-wp/wp-content/uploads/800x600_male_001.jpg)

(http://ballaquatics.com/ba-wp/wp-content/uploads/800x600_female_with_eggs_004.jpg)

(http://ballaquatics.com/ba-wp/wp-content/uploads/800x600_female_with_eggs_003.jpg)

(http://ballaquatics.com/ba-wp/wp-content/uploads/800x600_female_with_eggs_002.jpg)

(http://ballaquatics.com/ba-wp/wp-content/uploads/800x600_male_002.jpg)

(http://ballaquatics.com/ba-wp/wp-content/uploads/800x600_male_003.jpg)

(http://ballaquatics.com/ba-wp/wp-content/uploads/800x600_female_with_eggs_001.jpg)

(http://ballaquatics.com/ba-wp/wp-content/uploads/800x600_female_001.jpg)

All the other girls are plump and should have eggs any day now.  They are pretty cool little fish.  Sort of small and delicate.  They would be great in a desktop nano tank.

Dennis
Title: Re: Oryzias woworae - Ricefish
Post by: Mugwump on November 29, 2013, 04:07:20 AM
Pretty...those are Neon family aren't they?????...
Title: Re: Oryzias woworae - Ricefish
Post by: wsantia1 on November 29, 2013, 04:34:50 AM
Very nice.  Congrats.
Title: Re: Oryzias woworae - Ricefish
Post by: BallAquatics on November 29, 2013, 07:31:14 AM
Quote from: Mugwump on November 29, 2013, 04:07:20 AM
Pretty...those are Neon family aren't they?????...

I have seen them called Neon Ricefish before, but they are not related to Neon tetras if that's what you mean.  These fish are native to the island of Sulawesi in Indonesia.  http://www.asihcopeiaonline.org/doi/abs/10.1643/CI-09-108 (http://www.asihcopeiaonline.org/doi/abs/10.1643/CI-09-108)

Thanks Willie, it was a very pleasant surprise to find them carrying eggs.   ;)

Dennis
Title: Re: Oryzias woworae - Ricefish
Post by: Mugwump on November 29, 2013, 07:33:16 AM
Quote from: BallAquatics on November 29, 2013, 07:31:14 AM
Quote from: Mugwump on November 29, 2013, 04:07:20 AM
Pretty...those are Neon family aren't they?????...

I have seen them called Neon Ricefish before, but they are not related to Neon tetras if that's what you mean.  These fish are native to the island of Sulawesi in Indonesia.  http://www.asihcopeiaonline.org/doi/abs/10.1643/CI-09-108 (http://www.asihcopeiaonline.org/doi/abs/10.1643/CI-09-108)

Thanks Willie, it was a very pleasant surprise to find them carrying eggs.   ;)

Dennis

Thanks, that's likely what I've seen somewhere too...??
Title: Re: Oryzias woworae - Ricefish
Post by: sschind on November 29, 2013, 07:58:17 AM
Quote from: BallAquatics on November 28, 2013, 10:14:13 PM
Back in the spring, I picked up a bag of these fish at our club swap meet.  I hadn't really done anything with them until a couple of weeks ago.  I started loading them up on live Moina, added some floating horn wort to their tank and stepped up their water changes.

While I was changing some water this afternoon I noticed a female carrying eggs.    ;D ;D ;D

(http://ballaquatics.com/ba-wp/wp-content/uploads/800x600_male_001.jpg)

(http://ballaquatics.com/ba-wp/wp-content/uploads/800x600_female_with_eggs_004.jpg)

(http://ballaquatics.com/ba-wp/wp-content/uploads/800x600_female_with_eggs_003.jpg)

(http://ballaquatics.com/ba-wp/wp-content/uploads/800x600_female_with_eggs_002.jpg)

(http://ballaquatics.com/ba-wp/wp-content/uploads/800x600_male_002.jpg)

(http://ballaquatics.com/ba-wp/wp-content/uploads/800x600_male_003.jpg)

(http://ballaquatics.com/ba-wp/wp-content/uploads/800x600_female_with_eggs_001.jpg)

(http://ballaquatics.com/ba-wp/wp-content/uploads/800x600_female_001.jpg)

All the other girls are plump and should have eggs any day now.  They are pretty cool little fish.  Sort of small and delicate.  They would be great in a desktop nano tank.

Dennis

If I am not mistaken those little buggers were about $8.00 a piece on my wholesale list a couple of year back when they first hit.  Pretty but expensive.
Title: Re: Oryzias woworae - Ricefish
Post by: PaulineMi on November 29, 2013, 09:32:48 AM
Super pictures Dennis.
Title: Re: Oryzias woworae - Ricefish
Post by: BallAquatics on November 29, 2013, 10:25:47 AM
Thank you Pauline.

Dennis
Title: Re: Oryzias woworae - Ricefish
Post by: b125killer on November 29, 2013, 03:00:23 PM
There neat Dennis. Do they carry there eggs until they hatch?
Title: Re: Oryzias woworae - Ricefish
Post by: BallAquatics on November 29, 2013, 04:06:53 PM
No they will brush them off onto some plants and then have more in a day or two.  They have only been in the hobby for the past 3 years so there's not a whole lot known about them.  It is believed that the eggs are fertilized internally and remain there for a while before exiting the female and then being attached to plants.  From what I've read it takes from 1 to 3 weeks for the eggs to hatch.

Dennis
Title: Re: Oryzias woworae - Ricefish
Post by: BillT on November 29, 2013, 10:50:21 PM
Cool fish. I like the name, Wow!-orae.
Title: Re: Oryzias woworae - Ricefish
Post by: Ron Sower on November 29, 2013, 11:07:37 PM
Quote from: BallAquatics on November 29, 2013, 04:06:53 PM
No they will brush them off onto some plants and then have more in a day or two.  They have only been in the hobby for the past 3 years so there's not a whole lot known about them.  It is believed that the eggs are fertilized internally and remain there for a while before exiting the female and then being attached to plants.  From what I've read it takes from 1 to 3 weeks for the eggs to hatch.

Dennis

The 1-3 weeks works for me.  That's the way I noticed the fry appearing last summer.

I'm trying to figure out how they could have internal fertilization...there's no gonopodium on the males.
Title: Re: Oryzias woworae - Ricefish
Post by: BallAquatics on November 30, 2013, 08:25:30 AM
Quote from: Ron Sower on November 29, 2013, 11:07:37 PM
I'm trying to figure out how they could have internal fertilization...there's no gonopodium on the males.

Not sure where I read that.....  Seriously Fish says, "The adhesive eggs are typically expelled as a single mass and fertilized simultaneously.....", so maybe they are not fertilized internally.  I haven't noticed the males paying special attention to the females carrying eggs.

http://www.seriouslyfish.com/species/oryzias-woworae/ (http://www.seriouslyfish.com/species/oryzias-woworae/)

Dennis
Title: Re: Oryzias woworae - Ricefish
Post by: BillT on November 30, 2013, 01:33:50 PM
The research medaka (Oryzias latipes) is fertilized externally.
It is the Japanese equivalent of the zebrafish for research purposes.
External fertilization is very handy for research purposes.