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Title: the Solar Eclipse
Post by: Mugwump on August 17, 2017, 07:43:07 PM
See How the Solar Eclipse Will Look From Anywhere in the U.S.


enter your zip and it'll give an approximate view.

http://time.com/4882923/total-solar-eclipse-map-places-view/ (http://time.com/4882923/total-solar-eclipse-map-places-view/)

Title: Re: the Solar Eclipse
Post by: wallace on August 18, 2017, 11:34:36 AM
We have decided not to drive north to see totality. There will be 91% coverage of the sun right here at home. I hate, HATE, crowds and its shaping to be madness on the highways around here.

My poor old telescope, it has been outside collecting dust for 20 years. I'll dust it off and collimate the mirrors and see about getting a picture.

Title: Re: the Solar Eclipse
Post by: Mugwump on August 18, 2017, 11:38:27 AM
...the center of the path is about a couple hundred miles south of us, but we'll get about that here too......so we'll watch on the deck swing.... |^|
Title: Re: the Solar Eclipse
Post by: wallace on August 18, 2017, 11:44:48 AM
Just checked DeKalb and you would have 88% coverage of the sun. I wonder how dim it will get? The eye perceives brightness in a sort of logarithmic way.
Title: Re: the Solar Eclipse
Post by: Mugwump on August 18, 2017, 12:12:12 PM
Quote from: wallace on August 18, 2017, 11:44:48 AM
Just checked DeKalb and you would have 88% coverage of the sun. I wonder how dim it will get? The eye perceives brightness in a sort of logarithmic way.

....that's a neat link isn't it ?...... |^|

Title: Re: the Solar Eclipse
Post by: waterboy on August 18, 2017, 01:12:20 PM
You can't look at it. so I think I will just watch it on TV or some streaming website.  Saw the last one in the 70s with a hole in a piece of cardboard, wasn't impressed.
Title: Re: the Solar Eclipse
Post by: waterboy on August 21, 2017, 09:03:07 AM
Got to thinking about it last night.  The sun and the moon both rise in the east and set in the west which means they are both traveling across the sky east to west.  Given that, why does the shadow travel from west to east, Oregon to Florida.  If someone could explain the physics behind that so that us dummies could understand it, I would appreciate it.
Title: Re: the Solar Eclipse
Post by: Mugwump on August 21, 2017, 09:33:58 AM
Quote from: waterboy on August 21, 2017, 09:03:07 AM
Got to thinking about it last night.  The sun and the moon both rise in the east and set in the west which means they are both traveling across the sky east to west.  Given that, why does the shadow travel from west to east, Oregon to Florida.  If someone could explain the physics behind that so that us dummies could understand it, I would appreciate it.

The moon(monthly orbit) travels faster than the sun(yearly orbit).....so it simply passes it.....west coast time is earlier than east coast time....as it is the sun's position when it is passed....
Title: Re: the Solar Eclipse
Post by: wallace on August 21, 2017, 10:22:36 AM
Quote from: waterboy on August 21, 2017, 09:03:07 AM
Got to thinking about it last night.  The sun and the moon both rise in the east and set in the west which means they are both traveling across the sky east to west.  Given that, why does the shadow travel from west to east, Oregon to Florida.  If someone could explain the physics behind that so that us dummies could understand it, I would appreciate it.

Ever notice that the moon always shows up a little ways to the left of where it was yesterday at the same time? From our point of view on the ground the moon is slowly sliding across the sky to the left or eastward. During the eclipse the moon slides into the right side of the sun as the sun overtakes it. Sunshine happens first on the east coast but the shadow is moving twice as fast as the earth is turning, so the shadow is sort of passing up the progress of the day.

That's an awful explanation!.. lol... an animation would be easier, I'll see if I can find one.
Title: Re: the Solar Eclipse
Post by: wallace on August 21, 2017, 11:00:52 AM
The solar filter on the front of the scope with the camera at the focus. The eclipse should start in a few minutes.
Title: Re: the Solar Eclipse
Post by: Mugwump on August 21, 2017, 11:06:17 AM
Quote from: wallace on August 21, 2017, 11:00:52 AM
The solar filter on the front of the scope with the camera at the focus. The eclipse should start in a few minutes.

...wonderful.... |^|
Title: Re: the Solar Eclipse
Post by: Mugwump on August 21, 2017, 11:11:18 AM
..I should add that it's so overcast here at the moment that the only thing we'll see is the darkness... wfwf

..hopefully it'll clear up some..... huh
Title: Re: the Solar Eclipse
Post by: wallace on August 21, 2017, 12:36:54 PM
Two things were a surprise. It started getting chilly. And if you look at your shadow the edges of your shadow are sharper than usual.

Title: Re: the Solar Eclipse
Post by: Mugwump on August 21, 2017, 01:47:43 PM
..the peak is past here...clouds obscured most of the event....not dark, but more like early twilight maybe....
Title: Re: the Solar Eclipse
Post by: Ron Sower on August 21, 2017, 01:56:59 PM
Fella came by with some glasses to view it...Missed the peak coverage, but saw it 1/3 covered....Nobody here died from it yet!!! |^|
Title: Re: the Solar Eclipse
Post by: waterboy on August 21, 2017, 02:07:47 PM
It is because the moon is moving in relation to the sun and earth. 
Managed to see most of it up until just about peak and then the clouds rolled in.
Title: Re: the Solar Eclipse
Post by: LizStreithorst on August 21, 2017, 02:08:52 PM
I didn't have the glasses and I didn't make the box.  I think that the sun was obscured by clouds at least at first.  (I didn't dare look to see for sure).  I sat in the swing by the chicken house hoping to see them go to roost in the middle of the day but it didn't get dark enough here.  It did cool off enough to sit outside without sweating.  It became quiet and peaceful.  The skeeters figured it was meal time.  The coolest thing was the crescent shaped shadows.

I'm glad that my expectations weren't high.  I'm glad that it happened on my day off so I didn't have to miss it.  It wasn't a religious experience as some have described but I'm happy to have experienced it.
Title: Re: the Solar Eclipse
Post by: wallace on August 21, 2017, 02:22:06 PM
This animation shows that the moon's shadow is moving west-to-east faster than the earth is turning. If the earth was turning faster the shadow would travel the other way. But then there would be shorter days and that would suck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKFPL9xBe_U
Title: Re: the Solar Eclipse
Post by: Mugwump on August 21, 2017, 04:50:22 PM
..about an hour after the eclipse......the sun came out..... huh huh huh huh huh
Title: Re: the Solar Eclipse
Post by: wsantia1 on August 21, 2017, 06:22:44 PM
It was a big dud here. Didn't even get close to dark. Had a T-storm roll by here on afternoon last week that made it look like night. This thing was barely cloudy.
Title: Re: the Solar Eclipse
Post by: Mugwump on August 21, 2017, 07:33:09 PM
..is this cool or not.... 8)

(https://s2.postimg.org/amulglond/36577885701_bc2672a577_o-e1503341473387.jpg)

The International Space Station is seen in silhouette as it transits the Sun during a partial solar eclipse today near Banner, Wyoming. (NASA/Joel Kowsky)

A closer look:

(https://s2.postimg.org/fa0nidc09/36577885701_bc2672a577_o2.jpg)
Title: Re: the Solar Eclipse
Post by: LizStreithorst on August 21, 2017, 07:39:30 PM
Cool