I need to know in both Greek and English. Ones that look exactly like that one but blush have a different name, right? It has something to do with SS and S+. but I could be wrong.
Do these have any value? I have a pair that is going to raise a ton of kids and several other pairs with eggs.
Looks like a Paraiba to me (S/S - pb/pb). Two blue genes and two Stripeless genes. I think the patches of quinine (probably not spelled right) are the result of the 2 stripeless genes (Blusher). Two Stripeless genes (S/S) is a blusher and 1 stripeless gene is a Chost (S/+) or a Clown (S/Z).
Quote from: waterboy on December 28, 2017, 11:34:33 PM
Looks like a Paraiba to me (S/S - pb/pb). Two blue genes and two Stripeless genes. I think the patches of quinine (probably not spelled right) are the result of the 2 stripeless genes (Blusher). Two Stripeless genes (S/S) is a blusher and 1 stripeless gene is a Ghost (S/+) or a Clown (S/Z).
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Quote from: Mugwump on December 29, 2017, 04:37:56 AM
Quote from: waterboy on December 28, 2017, 11:34:33 PM
Looks like a Paraiba to me (S/S - pb/pb). Two blue genes and two Stripeless genes. I think the patches of quinine (probably not spelled right) are the result of the 2 stripeless genes (Blusher). Two Stripeless genes (S/S) is a blusher and 1 stripeless gene is a Ghost (S/+) or a Clown (S/Z).
...+1 |^|
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Tell me if I am crazy. I believe (but could be wrong) that both parents were ghost pearl scales. I see pearlscale in some of the shiny parts but not other's. Please look at the picture again and tell me that you don't see pearl scales on some but not all of the shiny parts.
Separate phenomena I think. I don't see any pearl scales. The shiny patches you see are the result of 2 stripeless genes.
But if both parents were pearlscale then these have to be pearlscales so you might be right. Something new you have discovered about pearlscales.
Thank you, Dale.
..typ, and remember pearlscale is recessive....
Yes. Some could have two doses of it and others just one. Do you and Dale see what I'm talking about in the picture? I see it. Some of those shiny scales are quite plump.
That's right. That is why with both parents being pearlscale, the youngsters have to be pearlscale. Two recessives on the fathers side means all fry have one, and two recessives on the mothers side means all fry have one from father and one from mother. Whether or not, or how, they express the double dose pearlscale genes is probably another question. Looks as if a blushing pearlscale might only express the pearlscale in the guanine spots.
Quote from: LizStreithorst on December 30, 2017, 03:05:23 PM
Yes. Some could have two doses of it and others just one. Do you and Dale see what I'm talking about in the picture? I see it. Some of those shiny scales are quite plump.
Pretty hard to tell, but some of the ones by the anal fin and on the side look like they could be.
...and pearlscale doesn't pop with all fish the same way and same time too.....I've seen pearl come pretty late in the fry development on many a spawn....
Quote from: Mugwump on December 30, 2017, 03:12:10 PM
...and pearlscale doesn't pop with all fish the same way and same time too.....I've seen pearl come pretty late in the fry development on many a spawn....
Have any ideas as to why? What might be the modifying factor?
Quote from: waterboy on December 30, 2017, 03:17:55 PM
Quote from: Mugwump on December 30, 2017, 03:12:10 PM
...and pearlscale doesn't pop with all fish the same way and same time too.....I've seen pearl come pretty late in the fry development on many a spawn....
Have any ideas as to why? What might be the modifying factor?
...I don't think there's a modifier....it's nature that they all don't pop at once....and in the same way.....I've even seen late pearling Plats, which express pearl fairly easily ..he stripeless might slow some down, or make it difficult to see because of the random iridescent patterns over lapping there as well... huh
I tried to take pics of my 5 pairs but their water is dark with tea and I couldn't get decent shots. All I know is that I see plump here and there on the shiny parts of these Paraibas. Not all the shiny scales are plump. These fish have been breeding age for months and the plump scales are still just limited to the shiny places. With my Sunsets from Dale, the shiny is flat. On my gold pearlscales that I adore, every scale is plump and shiny.
I wish a smart Angelfish person lived close to me and could come visit and look at the fish. On one hand, I see what I see. All my other fish of the same age are all pearls. I'm pretty sure that they came from a blue pearlscale ghost pair. I got blue silvers, blue ghosts, and a blue clown or two, and these paraibas.
I have one pair that will turn a huge batch they will turn loose to free swim tomorrow. All the other pairs eat their dang eggs.
..are you seeing something similar to this... huh
(https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26056140_10210805137585665_5564393837993524003_n.jpg?oh=cedfac7bb10c925b455e8fb3720d1f72&oe=5AF385F4)
Similar but much more pronounced,
..above is just the iridescent patch from the blushing exposing the underlying scales....
OK.