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THE POND-THE FRESHWATER PLACE => Freshwater Fish => Topic started by: Jo on November 09, 2012, 06:43:35 AM

Title: BBS
Post by: Jo on November 09, 2012, 06:43:35 AM
Does anyone know of a kit or how do you all go about raising bbs? I've never done this before and would really like to try. I don't have a clue where to begin.
Title: Re: BBS
Post by: b125killer on November 09, 2012, 07:16:40 AM
this is what I got http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=4445&cmpid=03csepg&ref=3475&subref=AA
you could also make one Look on you tube there's lots of videos about them. I was just to lazy to do it.
Title: Re: BBS
Post by: LizStreithorst on November 09, 2012, 07:49:23 AM
I have that one and I have an expensive kind.  I like that one best.  I think most fish stores carry them if you don't want to bother ordering.
Title: Re: BBS
Post by: BallAquatics on November 09, 2012, 08:11:06 AM
I use these from Brine Shrimp Direct.....

http://www.brineshrimpdirect.com/c9/Hatching-Kit-p156.html (http://www.brineshrimpdirect.com/c9/Hatching-Kit-p156.html)

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The most expedient and inexpensive brine shrimp egg hatching apparatus on the market The hatchery consists of an epoxy base which holds an inverted plastic two liter soda bottle as the incubation vessel. Insert the airline into the hatchery base, add salt water and eggs and you're ready to go! Included with the Hatchery Kit are three packets of "Hatch Mix" (salt and brine shrimp eggs*) along with detailed instructions. Note: Remove plastic ring from bottle before attaching bottle to base. * The brine shrimp eggs that are included in the kit are not processed, packaged or tested for quality by Brine Shrimp Direct. We do not make any representations as to the hatch-out quality of these eggs. As always BSD recommends that you buy eggs that have been recently tested for quality and that are always guaranteed.

$8.95

Dennis
Title: Re: BBS
Post by: Jo on November 09, 2012, 11:50:56 AM
Thanks everyone!!!!
Title: Re: BBS
Post by: BallAquatics on November 09, 2012, 02:54:26 PM
For years, I would hatch at least one batch of BBS every morning.  Here lately I've been using Moina instead.  I still have ups and downs with the Moina cultures, but I'm getting there.

Dennis
Title: Re: BBS
Post by: BillT on November 09, 2012, 05:26:21 PM
There are two ways to hatch brine shrimp. You can float the eggs on the surface in a shallow tray or you can keep them in suspension with aeration. The second method can produce more but the first is simple. The second method works best when the bubbles will sweep the settling eggs up into the water from a small bottom are, like an upside down pop bottle.

In either case, they need salty water to hatch:
250 ml rock salt
3/4 tsp. NaHCO3 (this increases the pH)
8 L water

Change the number proportionately for different volumes.

On occasion, I have had some eggs get into my rotifer cultures and grow to adults. They were eating algae.
Title: Re: BBS
Post by: Jo on November 09, 2012, 05:50:11 PM
Quote from: BallAquatics on November 09, 2012, 02:54:26 PM
For years, I would hatch at least one batch of BBS every morning.  Here lately I've been using Moina instead.  I still have ups and downs with the Moina cultures, but I'm getting there.

Dennis

Never heard of Moina what is it?
Title: Re: BBS
Post by: Mugwump on November 09, 2012, 05:51:22 PM
Google is your friend... 8)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moina
Title: Re: BBS
Post by: LizStreithorst on November 09, 2012, 05:57:17 PM
Daphnia is great, but I've never been able to keep a culture going.  I only tried the big ones, never the Monia.  It prodces like crazy and then crashes.  It's the heat here down south I think.
Title: Re: BBS
Post by: Jo on November 09, 2012, 06:09:24 PM
Wow that is really interesting! I'm going to try to raise some.

On occasion, I have had some eggs get into my rotifer cultures and grow to adults. They were eating algae.
Title: Re: BBS
Post by: Jo on November 09, 2012, 06:11:31 PM
Quote from: Mugwump on November 09, 2012, 05:51:22 PM
Google is your friend... 8)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moina

LOL! Still not sure and I went there.
Title: Re: BBS
Post by: Mugwump on November 09, 2012, 06:24:23 PM
Quote from: Jo on November 09, 2012, 06:11:31 PM
Quote from: Mugwump on November 09, 2012, 05:51:22 PM
Google is your friend... 8)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moina

LOL! Still not sure and I went there.

me too...LOL...ok tiny little bugs......hehe
Title: Re: BBS
Post by: Mugwump on November 09, 2012, 06:30:42 PM
However...this helps to inderstand them..
.......
Moina also belongs to the Cladocera and many of the biological and cultural characteristics that have been discussed for Daphnia can be applied to Moina.

Moina thrives in ponds and reservoirs but primarily inhabits temporary ponds or ditches. The period to reach reproductive maturity takes four to five days at 26?C. At maturity clear sexual dimorphic characteristics can be observed in the size of the animals and the antennule morphology. Males (0.6-0.9 mm) are smaller than females (1.0-1.5 mm) and have long graspers which are used for holding the female during copulation. Sexually mature females carry only two eggs enclosed in an ephippium which is part of the dorsal exoskeleton.

Moina is of a smaller size than Daphnia, with a higher protein content, and of comparable economic value. Produced biomass is successfully used in the larviculture of rainbow trout, salmon, striped bass and by tropical fish hobbyists who also use it in a frozen form to feed over sixty fresh and salt water fish varieties. The partial replacement of Artemia by Moina micrura was also reported to have a positive effect during the larviculture of the freshwater prawn Macrobrachium rosenbergii (Alam, 1992).

Enrichment of Moina can be carried out using the direct method, by culturing them on baker?s yeast and emulsified fish or cuttlefish liver oils. Experiments have shown that Moina takes up (n-3) HUFA in the same way, although slower, than rotifers and Artemia nauplii, reaching a maximum concentration of around 40% after a 24 h-feeding period.

Title: Re: BBS
Post by: Mugwump on November 09, 2012, 06:37:19 PM
also..........
Title: Re: BBS
Post by: Jo on November 09, 2012, 07:00:00 PM
Ok I understand better now. So would it be safe to feed your fish that from a pond?
Title: Re: BBS
Post by: Mugwump on November 09, 2012, 07:08:43 PM
As long as it doesn't have farm runoff....or fed by sewer drainage...why not?...if you'd raised/cultured it yourself, the water would be about the same....imho....I'll probably try it and see, myself....stat tuned.....LOL..supposed to be warm this weekend...pond(s) near by...hmmmm
Title: Re: BBS
Post by: Jo on November 09, 2012, 07:34:25 PM
Really! Thanks for finding that and posting it. There are a couple of ponds near here hmmmm....
Title: Re: BBS
Post by: Mugwump on November 09, 2012, 07:38:21 PM
Quote from: Jo on November 09, 2012, 07:34:25 PM
Really! Thanks for finding that and posting it. There are a couple of ponds near here hmmmm....

I have a couple old drum bowls that I can take some pond water and an air stone and ..see what happens....just takes yeast to feed them....