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Title: Can steroid era stats be normalized?
Post by: BillT on July 24, 2015, 06:19:05 PM
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/america-has-spoken-mlb-steroid-users-should-lose-a-third-of-their-stats/ (http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/america-has-spoken-mlb-steroid-users-should-lose-a-third-of-their-stats/)
Title: Re: Can steroid era stats be normalized?
Post by: Mugwump on July 24, 2015, 06:27:11 PM
Quote from: BillT on July 24, 2015, 06:19:05 PM
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/america-has-spoken-mlb-steroid-users-should-lose-a-third-of-their-stats/ (http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/america-has-spoken-mlb-steroid-users-should-lose-a-third-of-their-stats/)

Interesting concept........but not sure it's the answer....I like the 'asterisk' next to their names idea too......makes em stand out amongst those who didn't use drugs..
Title: Re: Can steroid era stats be normalized?
Post by: PaulineMi on July 25, 2015, 07:43:01 AM
Have separate "user"/"non-user" lists. Would the old-timers do even better with today's emphasis on physical fitness, pristine fields and perfect equipment? 
Title: Re: Can steroid era stats be normalized?
Post by: Mugwump on July 25, 2015, 08:43:57 AM
Quote from: PaulineMi on July 25, 2015, 07:43:01 AM
Have separate "user"/"non-user" lists. Would the old-timers do even better with today's emphasis on physical fitness, pristine fields and perfect equipment?

To me, having two lists would be like condoning the use of drugs in our era.... a la, here's the way they did it, here's the way we did it...

I can't imagine how far Ruth could hit the juiced baseball used no days....wow !....or Gehrig....etc...and they would cringe at having 'instant replay' rulings.....good grief.......
Title: Re: Can steroid era stats be normalized?
Post by: BillT on July 27, 2015, 08:37:39 PM
Here's another 538 article on this subject.

They are comparing what people think about steroids vs. amphetamines vs. pre-integration:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/roundtable-all-of-baseball-history-should-get-an-asterisk/ (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/roundtable-all-of-baseball-history-should-get-an-asterisk/)