....re-pairing tomorrow....I need to divorce a few pairs ;D.... looking at pairing a nice big DD male veil with a F3 Manacapuru female......+/D fry...black lace....the male might be a super veil, if so....half will end up having those great fins.. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Might try a plat to a HE ?....or a PB blue veil....?...
The plat/HE would be a interesting pair.
Quote from: b125killer on April 06, 2014, 08:56:01 PM
The plat/HE would be a interesting pair.
...that's what I'm thinking to Scott.... ;D
I hate exhibiting my total Angel ignorance in front of the entire Angelfish world, but what is an HE? I'm sure it's something obvious and I will feel like a fool when I'm told.
Quote from: LizStreithorst on April 12, 2014, 04:48:33 PM
I hate exhibiting my total Angel ignorance in front of the entire Angelfish world, but what is an HE? I'm sure it's something obvious and I will feel like a fool when I'm told.
The HE's are 'het everything' (almost)..LOL...remember now?..Frank bred them his HB project
I remember now what it means. I knew I would feel embarrassed.
I don't remember Frank's thread. Perhaps I wasn't interested back then. Would be so kind as to post the link? I'm interested now.
There is no real thread on them here......
OK. I suppose I will have to ask Frank.
Quote from: LizStreithorst on April 12, 2014, 05:58:03 PM
OK. I suppose I will have to ask Frank.
Just look over on the TAS II forum.....I know the threads are there somewhere???....but I started the term 'HE' 'het everything.....I'm not sure a search for that will yield much..??...ask Frank, or search Frank's posts for the HB stuff....
I figured he talked about it there. I PM'd Frank here so he will have to answer me here or not at all (evil grin).
Quote from: LizStreithorst on April 12, 2014, 07:14:25 PM
I figured he talked about it there. I PM'd Frank here so he will have to answer me here or not at all (evil grin).
..and what's the question???....nothing to tell really, they were just a result of crosses that he made during his ongoing half black project......
...all the posts by Frank at TAS II
http://www.angelfish.net/VBulletin/search.php?searchid=874359
I suppose I should have asked you my question. I figured I'd ask Frank because I know that he's breeding half blues. I wondered if it was within the realm of possibility to breed half oranges. I know the stripeless gene would be involved so I doubt it would be possible, but you never know unless you make a fool of yourself by asking a stupid question.
Quote from: LizStreithorst on April 13, 2014, 03:19:38 PM
I suppose I should have asked you my question. I figured I'd ask Frank because I know that he's breeding half blues. I wondered if it was within the realm of possibility to breed half oranges. I know the stripeless gene would be involved so I doubt it would be possible, but you never know unless you make a fool of yourself by asking a stupid question.
It's not so much the stripeless gene, but the gold.....g/g will attempt to mask the half black black...you'll likely get faded looking inverted expression....
You know, I think I'd read that somewhere once but it didn't stick. Shame. I was looking at the tank with my 5 surviving hb that are in with your grand kids and thought that a half orange would make a fine looking fish. I figured that if it were possible someone would have done it by now. I figured right.
Sad....Hb/Hb Pb/+ S/+ G/+ Z/+ A/+ to Hb Hb Pb/+ equals. Yeah. But we call them HE's without ever crossing them to get Half black philipine blues, hb expressing albinos, paraibas, golds, plats etc. Oh well.
Quote from: Frank The Plumber on April 13, 2014, 05:20:01 PM
Sad....Hb/Hb Pb/+ S/+ G/+ Z/+ A/+ to Hb Hb Pb/+ equals. Yeah. But we call them HE's without ever crossing them to get Half black philipine blues, hb expressing albinos, paraibas, golds, plats etc. Oh well.
Ah, but they did get crossed to a F3 manacapuru with a stripeless and a pb... ;D...and siblings were bred too.... ;D.....
Frank has done a lot of nice crosses in his project....some bearing excellent results...I believe he was looking to get as many genes involved as possible in order to confirm/disprove as much as feasible ....the HE's that I have were from one of those building block pairings....his current half black stock is just a wonderful sight to see....lot's of work went into it....it takes up a fish room, plus....LOL...