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THE POND-THE FRESHWATER PLACE => Angelfish => Topic started by: LizStreithorst on October 13, 2017, 06:24:16 PM

Title: Y'all should see these half black kids
Post by: LizStreithorst on October 13, 2017, 06:24:16 PM
I moved them to a 120 today.  They're not yet dime size but there are a ton of them.  The're  a bit lost having been just moved into a tank almost twice the size that they were in.

They are so small but they have all turned.  I am impressed with what this pair that I paid too much for has produced in it's first spawn.  I'll take a pic and post it may be Sunday.  Too tired now, and haven't eaten yet.
Title: Re: Y'all should see these half black kids
Post by: Mugwump on October 13, 2017, 06:29:00 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on October 13, 2017, 06:24:16 PM
I moved them to a 120 today.  They're not yet dime size but there are a ton of them.  The're  a bit lost having been just moved into a tank almost twice the size that they were in.

They are so small but they have all turned.  I am impressed with what this pair that I paid too much for has produced in it's first spawn.  I'll take a pic and post it may be Sunday.  Too tired now, and haven't eaten yet.


....time yo kick back and chill..... w!w |^| w!w
Title: Re: Y'all should see these half black kids
Post by: LizStreithorst on October 13, 2017, 06:32:37 PM
food first.   w!w later.  then bed.
Title: Re: Y'all should see these half black kids
Post by: LizStreithorst on October 13, 2017, 07:30:07 PM
I ate and got a second wind.  A bunch of them were all grouped in a corner of the tank and I took this pic.
Title: Re: Y'all should see these half black kids
Post by: Mugwump on October 13, 2017, 07:48:04 PM
...WOW !    great pic.... |^|
Title: Re: Y'all should see these half black kids
Post by: Ron Sower on October 14, 2017, 12:49:04 AM
...I second that WOW and am amazed at how uniform they appear in their color patterns...!
Title: Re: Y'all should see these half black kids
Post by: wsantia1 on October 14, 2017, 07:24:15 AM
Great looking spawn. |^| |^| |^| |^| |^|
Title: Re: Y'all should see these half black kids
Post by: GeorgeG on October 14, 2017, 08:34:12 AM
They look good Liz, Let me know when you start selling them.
Title: Re: Y'all should see these half black kids
Post by: greydragon on October 14, 2017, 10:54:11 AM
WOW WOW WOW is all i can say
Title: Re: Y'all should see these half black kids
Post by: LizStreithorst on October 14, 2017, 12:20:59 PM
Thanks guys.  I paid $180. for the pair which is supposed to be $30 more than they are worth, but judging by what they have presented me with it was not too much after all.  I have only found one cull in the entire batch.

I'll wait until they're between nickel and quarter size when I start selling them.  I'm over shipping big fish.  Too much stress and too great a chance of disaster.
Title: Re: Y'all should see these half black kids
Post by: BallAquatics on October 15, 2017, 07:25:09 AM
I don't normally care for fish that deviate from their natural markings and coloration, but those are cool looking Liz.  Very well done!  You shouldn't have any problems moving them.   |^|

Dennis
Title: Re: Y'all should see these half black kids
Post by: LizStreithorst on October 24, 2017, 04:11:46 PM
I'm getting ready to start selling these guys.  I remembered that I'd posted about them here and came back to take a look at the thread. 

Gentlemen, tank you very much for the compliments.  Mug, I didn't see it as a great pic until I came back to it with new yes.  It's not photographically great but it sure does do the fish justice.  They are peas in a pod and there are a ton of them.

I'll offer them for sale here first.  Y'all will get the best price.  Then I'll offer them on Simply and they will get a bit of a price break.  Finally I'll offer them on Auqabid and those folks will have to pay what I think the fish are worth.

I'll sell them in groups of 6.  If you're interested, shoot me a PM.
Title: Re: Y'all should see these half black kids
Post by: waterboy on October 24, 2017, 04:48:30 PM
1st dibs.
Title: Re: Y'all should see these half black kids
Post by: Mugwump on October 24, 2017, 04:50:41 PM
Quote from: waterboy on October 24, 2017, 04:48:30 PM
1st dibs.

|^|....LOL
Title: Re: Y'all should see these half black kids
Post by: LizStreithorst on October 24, 2017, 04:51:21 PM
Want me to ship yours Monday, Dale?
Title: Re: Y'all should see these half black kids
Post by: LizStreithorst on October 24, 2017, 04:53:07 PM
Oh shit, I'm out of two mil bags!  I need to call Jehmco now!
Title: Re: Y'all should see these half black kids
Post by: waterboy on October 24, 2017, 11:29:20 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on October 24, 2017, 04:51:21 PM
Want me to ship yours Monday, Dale?

Yes Yes Yes Pant Pant Pant can't wait!
Title: Re: Y'all should see these half black kids
Post by: Mugwump on October 25, 2017, 04:45:29 AM
Quote from: waterboy on October 24, 2017, 11:29:20 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on October 24, 2017, 04:51:21 PM
Want me to ship yours Monday, Dale?

Yes Yes Yes Pant Pant Pant can't wait!

.... :D
Title: Re: Y'all should see these half black kids
Post by: Babers on March 11, 2018, 08:36:45 AM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on October 13, 2017, 06:24:16 PM
They are so small but they have all turned.  I am impressed with what this pair that I paid too much for has produced in it's first spawn.  I'll take a pic and post it may be Sunday.  Too tired now, and haven't eaten yet.

Sorry, I was just trying to catch up on reading previous posts. I know this post is a few months old. I've heard of so many tricks on "helping" them express...lights, food, temperature, background, black gravel/sand....and I be heard of just good husbandry. I've had a few spawns and all I got were a few expressing Halfblacks. Nothing spectacular like yours. Can you share what you've done to get this high of expression on this batch?
Title: Re: Y'all should see these half black kids
Post by: LizStreithorst on March 11, 2018, 01:34:59 PM
I treat them same as I would Discus.  WC every day and feeding 3 times daily when they're young.  I feed mosquito larvae when they're available and the babies are large enough to take them.  I don't if that's why I have good luck or not.  It's just the way I've always done things.

I did run into a problem with a line I started years ago.  I crossed a Zebra from Angels Plus with a Half Black from George Garcia.  Out of around 500 fry I had one with a black tail and one that was 1/3 black.  They turned out to be a male and a female.  When I bred them together all the babies were half black.  I bred sib to sib and back to parents for so many generations that they became inbred and slam quit turning.  I can think of no other reason that happened.  That's why I'm so into fresh blood this time around. 
Title: Re: Y'all should see these half black kids
Post by: Babers on March 11, 2018, 08:29:26 PM
Did you have to limit their light exposure to an "X" number of hours per day? One of my halfblacks here , dark area on body fades but tail remains black when exposed to long periods of light. So I'm thinking lighting can be a factor too? Idk.
Title: Re: Y'all should see these half black kids
Post by: LizStreithorst on March 12, 2018, 08:11:21 AM
I don't do anything special with lighting.  I set the timers for 5 minutes on and 5 minutes off.  I just use cheap fluorescent from the hardware store.
Title: Re: Y'all should see these half black kids
Post by: Mugwump on March 12, 2018, 08:46:35 AM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on March 12, 2018, 08:11:21 AM
I don't do anything special with lighting.  I set the timers for 5 minutes on and 5 minutes off.  I just use cheap fluorescent from the hardware store.

.... huh
Title: Re: Y'all should see these half black kids
Post by: Babers on March 12, 2018, 08:49:19 AM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on March 12, 2018, 08:11:21 AM
I don't do anything special with lighting.  I set the timers for 5 minutes on and 5 minutes off.  I just use cheap fluorescent from the hardware store.

Is this alternating on/off continues throughout the 24 hour period on them?
Title: Re: Y'all should see these half black kids
Post by: Mugwump on March 12, 2018, 08:55:56 AM
Quote from: Babers on March 12, 2018, 08:49:19 AM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on March 12, 2018, 08:11:21 AM
I don't do anything special with lighting.  I set the timers for 5 minutes on and 5 minutes off.  I just use cheap fluorescent from the hardware store.

Is this alternating on/off continues throughout the 24 hour period on them?

..it's border line hypnotic....... huh
Title: Re: Y'all should see these half black kids
Post by: LizStreithorst on March 12, 2018, 09:25:50 AM
On at 7 am off at 7 pm
Title: Re: Y'all should see these half black kids
Post by: waterboy on March 12, 2018, 09:51:56 AM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on March 12, 2018, 08:11:21 AM
I don't do anything special with lighting.  I set the timers for 5 minutes on and 5 minutes off.  I just use cheap fluorescent from the hardware store.

Why the on - off blinking?  If you don't mind my asking.
Title: Re: Y'all should see these half black kids
Post by: LizStreithorst on March 12, 2018, 12:52:37 PM
Quote from: waterboy on March 12, 2018, 09:51:56 AM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on March 12, 2018, 08:11:21 AM
I don't do anything special with lighting.  I set the timers for 5 minutes on and 5 minutes off.  I just use cheap fluorescent from the hardware store.

Why the on - off blinking?  If you don't mind my asking.

I must have been drunk when I wrote the 5 minutes on 5 minutes off thing.  I don't know what I was thinking.
Title: Re: Y'all should see these half black kids
Post by: Mugwump on March 12, 2018, 01:01:22 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on March 12, 2018, 12:52:37 PM
Quote from: waterboy on March 12, 2018, 09:51:56 AM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on March 12, 2018, 08:11:21 AM
I don't do anything special with lighting.  I set the timers for 5 minutes on and 5 minutes off.  I just use cheap fluorescent from the hardware store.

Why the on - off blinking?  If you don't mind my asking.

I must have been drunk when I wrote the 5 minutes on 5 minutes off thing.  I don't know what I was thinking.

....LOL...... huh