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THE POND-THE FRESHWATER PLACE => THE TANK SET UP => Topic started by: Mugwump on October 25, 2014, 09:12:36 AM

Title: System Air pumps
Post by: Mugwump on October 25, 2014, 09:12:36 AM
OK....I use a PondMaster pump at the moment, with a Jehmco 80 for a backup.....I run 5/8" clear vinyl tube to a series of 12 valve gang logs.....plus I run single air lines to 3way/4way gang valves where needed. I have plenty of air, and using the clear tubing makes it very versatile for adding tanks, or reconfiguring the room setup. I prefer it to PVC as it's an easy setup and , as said, is more easily manipulated if necessary.....plus, it doesn't need to be 'looped' together...
Here's the pump....and 'T'....and pics showing some of the 12 valve gang logs...plus my Jehmco secondary unit.....questions??

Title: Re: System Air pumps
Post by: Mugwump on October 25, 2014, 09:13:44 AM
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Title: Re: System Air pumps
Post by: Mugwump on October 25, 2014, 09:14:42 AM
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Title: Re: System Air pumps
Post by: Mugwump on October 25, 2014, 09:15:23 AM
Jehmco pump, showing connection nipple.....

Title: Re: System Air pumps
Post by: JC on October 25, 2014, 09:41:48 AM
Ok I see now. I guess I was confused because I thought you couldn't put your 5/8 line on both ends keeping it going. Well that setup would be perfect for me. I would only need 2 or 3 of the logs. How did you get that T attachment for your pump?  Is the jehmco pump quiet?
Title: Re: System Air pumps
Post by: Mugwump on October 25, 2014, 09:59:29 AM
Quote from: JC on October 25, 2014, 09:41:48 AM
Ok I see now. I guess I was confused because I thought you couldn't put your 5/8 line on both ends keeping it going. Well that setup would be perfect for me. I would only need 2 or 3 of the logs. How did you get that T attachment for your pump?  Is the jehmco pump quiet?

The 'T' fitting usually comes with the pump, and yes, the Jehmco pump is very quiet.....if you order from them, ask  'John' if you need anything else....
...the tube will terminate at the last log, they have a plugged end....

I think you will like it because as you grow a little...you can remove an end log plug and continue on..... ;D......as I mentioned, I run single line from one valve on the log and simply attach a 3/4 way gang switch....I run my bbs farm, and a couple sponges for a 55 off of it....lots of air  ;D

sketch it out on paper first to get an idea....
Title: Re: System Air pumps
Post by: BallAquatics on October 25, 2014, 12:22:34 PM
What model is your Pondmaster Jon?  Danner sells these under several different names, Pond Master, Supreme, Danner, etc.

I run the Danner AP-100 and couldn't be happier.  Super quiet and super powerful.  Best thing is you can rebuild it for about $10.00

(http://ballaquatics.com/ba-wp/wp-content/uploads/danner_ap-100.jpg)

Dennis
Title: Re: System Air pumps
Post by: JC on October 25, 2014, 01:18:37 PM
How many sponges are you running off your pump Dennis?
Title: Re: System Air pumps
Post by: Mugwump on October 25, 2014, 01:29:57 PM
Dennis, my PondMaster is an AP-60....5.66 psi.....I even have a rebuild kit  ;D.....I'm running heaven knows how many outlets off it now...around 90+-100+ ? give or take, and it doesn't even burp....LOL...
Title: Re: System Air pumps
Post by: BallAquatics on October 25, 2014, 01:42:31 PM
Quote from: JC on October 25, 2014, 01:18:37 PM
How many sponges are you running off your pump Dennis?

Over 100.  It's rated for over 150 drops.

Dennis
Title: Re: System Air pumps
Post by: LizStreithorst on October 25, 2014, 09:12:44 PM
Wow, that's a powerful pump.  I have a Jhemco 60 and I love it.  If it fails, I'm up the creak.  I don't have an acceptable back up.
Title: Re: System Air pumps
Post by: b125killer on October 25, 2014, 11:16:42 PM
I use the Alita AL-40. it's been a great pump but I would be in the same creak as Liz if it fails.
Title: Re: System Air pumps
Post by: BallAquatics on October 25, 2014, 11:42:02 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on October 25, 2014, 09:12:44 PM
I don't have an acceptable back up.

These Danner pumps are inexpensive enough that you can afford to have a spare sitting on the shelf.....

http://www.vminnovations.com/Product_10457/Pondmaster-04580-Deep-Water-Pond-Air-Pump-AP-100.html (http://www.vminnovations.com/Product_10457/Pondmaster-04580-Deep-Water-Pond-Air-Pump-AP-100.html)

http://www.kensfish.com/aquarium-supplies/air-pumps/supreme-ap-100-air-pump.html (http://www.kensfish.com/aquarium-supplies/air-pumps/supreme-ap-100-air-pump.html)

Dennis
Title: Re: System Air pumps
Post by: wsantia1 on October 26, 2014, 05:29:09 AM
I have an Alita-60 on the shelf waiting to be put into service.???  For now my needs are minimal so I am using an Alita-15. 8)
Title: Re: System Air pumps
Post by: BallAquatics on October 26, 2014, 09:41:14 AM
My biggest problem with the Alita pumps is that I believe they use deceptive advertising.  They call them "Linear Air Pumps", but if you look at the rebuild kit, they are clearly diaphragm pumps.

To each his own though.  They are fine pumps and I know many fish keepers that swear by them.

Dennis
Title: Re: System Air pumps
Post by: JC on October 31, 2014, 10:19:44 AM
So I'm looking to get a danner AP 60 but can't find anywhere how many outlets it will run. I only need it to run about 30. Think that will be plenty of air?
Title: Re: System Air pumps
Post by: Mugwump on October 31, 2014, 10:34:55 AM
oh yeah, ...plenty+ .... I'm running my whole fish room off a Pondmaster AP 60......
Title: Re: System Air pumps
Post by: JC on October 31, 2014, 11:42:28 AM
Do you think I should go with the 40 instead?
Title: Re: System Air pumps
Post by: Mugwump on October 31, 2014, 12:12:15 PM
Quote from: JC on October 31, 2014, 11:42:28 AM
Do you think I should go with the 40 instead?

It's a possibility...that would work just fine......... ;D