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Title: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: P4Angels on December 09, 2012, 11:03:22 PM
Well what a weekend at our place.   Fish room make over in progress.  Went to Costco and picked up a Whalen industrial rack w/ interlocking wire deck.
(http://whalenstorage.com/cache/4ee447aeb93528adeff681718baa25cb_w300.jpg)


(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i453/Aron_Jemison/121206_0001.jpg)

Rack info



Installed a door to the entrance to the fish room on Friday night. Wished we would have done that allot sooner. that sure will keep the humidity out of the rest of the house.  Emptied tanks and moved things Sunday morning. Vacuumed and cleaned carpets. Built and installed the new rack Sunday afternoon.


Placed 1/2 inch insulation above the metal shelving and that silver insulation in the backs. Later will attach to the backs of the 20 gallons.
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i453/Aron_Jemison/121209_0002.jpg)


(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i453/Aron_Jemison/121209_0004.jpg)
Power strip (with 12 outlets from Harbor freight) inside back top of rack for heaters.  One switch to turn them all of when doing water changes.


(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i453/Aron_Jemison/121209_0001.jpg)
All done ready for tanks.... WOW that was not that bad....


(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i453/Aron_Jemison/121209_0005.jpg)


The Industrial rack system has 10 20 gallon highs on the top and middle and our 100 gallon storage water tank on the bottom.  The dehumidifier on the smaller rack to the left drains in to the holding system.  The other rack to the left we have used in the past and put them back together 3 tear high.  75 gallon on the bottom 55 gallon in the middle and 3 10 gallons across the top.  Last thing to do was re-install the air system.  I used  What a way to end a weekend.
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: P4Angels on December 09, 2012, 11:29:28 PM
Our house looks like World War 3 hit it. Things to get done for day 2.
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: Mugwump on December 10, 2012, 06:08:42 AM
Ah, I love it when a plan comes together....keep posting the progress....nice....did you coat/treat the metal racks with anything for moisture??....or are they corrosion proof??
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: BillT on December 10, 2012, 12:29:43 PM
I love these kind of racks. I have three and have not had any problems with corrosion yet. They have seen only a little salt though.
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: Frank The Plumber on December 10, 2012, 01:26:40 PM
Those metal shelves scare me.
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: P4Angels on December 10, 2012, 01:26:55 PM
Quote from: Mugwump on December 10, 2012, 06:08:42 AM
Ah, I love it when a plan comes together....keep posting the progress....nice....did you coat/treat the metal racks with anything for moisture??....or are they corrosion proof??


Commercial grade steel components with powder coated black wrinkle epoxy finishThree adjustable shelves with heavy duty welded end frames  Silver powder coated finish on welded wire decks and channel  Add Extra Shelf Kit (#WSIRS2472-BW sold separately) to connect 2 racks together and create large storage wallCertified for safe storage of food, water and other goods by NSF InternationalEasy single-tool assembly (rubber mallet not included)Shelf Capacity: 2,000 lbs. EVENLY DISTRIBUTED NON-SEISMIC CAPACITY (when load applied to beams)
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: P4Angels on December 10, 2012, 01:31:30 PM
Quote from: Frank The Plumber on December 10, 2012, 01:26:40 PM
Those metal shelves scare me.


I have been using them, for years now and have had one one problem with them.  The press board sheets that come with them swell up like a balloon when water hits them.  So I have been using 2x6 treated lumber in the corners and 2 in the middle with a sheet of foam between the 2x6's and tank. There are many fish keepers in the area that use the large industrial rack and have had zero problems with them. 
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: Barb on December 10, 2012, 02:27:26 PM
Wow, 2000 lbs, no problem at all with all those tanks on it then.  Good luck with the rest of it all. 
Barb
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: LizStreithorst on December 10, 2012, 02:47:03 PM
Hmmm...The waste from the dehumidifier goes into the system.  Good idea. 
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: Mugwump on December 10, 2012, 04:50:56 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on December 10, 2012, 02:47:03 PM
Hmmm...The waste from the dehumidifier goes into the system.  Good idea.
I caught that too. Providing the water's filtered for air impurities, it should work fine.
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: Jo on December 10, 2012, 08:22:24 PM
Looks really good!
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: BillT on December 10, 2012, 08:44:31 PM
QuoteI caught that too. Providing the water's filtered for air impurities, it should work fine.

i would be concerned about dissolved metal from the dehumidifier dissolving in the water and getting into the tanks.
Zinc and copper can have negative effects on fish at parts per billion concentrations, particularly if the water is soft.
But if everything seems OK than it probably is not be a problem.
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: P4Angels2 on December 10, 2012, 09:44:36 PM
It goes into a tank that is being treated for our fish
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: P4Angels on December 10, 2012, 11:05:15 PM
Quote from: BillT on December 10, 2012, 08:44:31 PM
QuoteI caught that too. Providing the water's filtered for air impurities, it should work fine.

i would be concerned about dissolved metal from the dehumidifier dissolving in the water and getting into the tanks.
Zinc and copper can have negative effects on fish at parts per billion concentrations, particularly if the water is soft.
But if everything seems OK than it probably is not be a problem.


I thought the same thing.  It is goes into a 100 gallons of treated water.   It only produces about 10-15 gallons of water daily.  So any trace elements are mixed in with 100 gallons of water that should delude it down to almost nothing.   
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: b125killer on December 11, 2012, 06:04:00 AM
It looks good. Are Them the tanks that you just redid the shelving for?
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: P4Angels on December 12, 2012, 02:29:26 PM
Quote from: b125killer on December 11, 2012, 06:04:00 AM
It looks good. Are Them the tanks that you just redid the shelving for?


They are, we wanted more room to sit back and enjoy the fish.
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: Mugwump on December 12, 2012, 04:30:35 PM
Quote from: P4Angels on December 12, 2012, 02:29:26 PM
Quote from: b125killer on December 11, 2012, 06:04:00 AM
It looks good. Are Them the tanks that you just redid the shelving for?


They are, we wanted more room to sit back and enjoy the fish.

Amen, you have to kick back and enjoy it too.....
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: P4Angels2 on December 15, 2012, 09:41:17 PM
OMG  :o :o :o  I think that if Aron gets the idea to rearrange the fish room again I am going to lock myself in the bedroom or lock him in so that we don't change it around like this!!! but...I have to admit it is really taking shape and is so much more enjoyable now!!  :D
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: Mugwump on December 16, 2012, 04:34:31 AM
LOL...next time he gets the 'itch'...he can come do mine... 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: Frank The Plumber on December 16, 2012, 01:49:05 PM
I would not put the dehumidifier water into the system either for he same reasons as Bill mentioned. It's an uncontrolled dose of metallics.
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: LizStreithorst on December 16, 2012, 02:44:49 PM
But does the dehumidfier not just take out H2O?  Where do the metalics come from, the copper coils?
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: P4Angels2 on December 16, 2012, 03:31:47 PM
The H2O from the dehumidifier only gives off maybe 2 gallons of water and it is going into a treated 100 gal tank the only kids that don't get it is the habrosus and pygmy cory's and shrimp..Everyone else is so much happier now
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: P4Angels on December 16, 2012, 07:31:26 PM
Another weekend comes to a close and closer to the end result.  Almost there, Will post some pic's when We get done.  Hope im not out in snow building another rack, but do what I have to get get this project done. 
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: Mugwump on December 16, 2012, 07:45:37 PM
Quote from: P4Angels on December 16, 2012, 07:31:26 PM
Another weekend comes to a close and closer to the end result.  Almost there, Will post some pic's when We get done.  Hope im not out in snow building another rack, but do what I have to get get this project done.

No garage??...do it in the front room....LOL..what's a little saw dust? :P
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: b125killer on December 16, 2012, 08:17:21 PM
I built a stand next to a tank. I didn't even think about where the saw dust was going to go.
I have a few tanks that need to be moved from the upper level to the lower. one of them is a 72 gallon bow. Not looking forward to that.
but then i can get a real fish room going.
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: P4Angels on December 16, 2012, 09:01:35 PM


[size=78%]No garage??...do it in the front room....LOL..what's a little saw dust?[/size] :P



I have a small storage area that has a garage door.  The garage was converted into a all purpose room (our fish room LOL) So i guess you would have to say I don't have a garage. 
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: Mugwump on December 23, 2012, 07:26:35 PM
Any more pics of your progress??.....
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: P4Angels on December 23, 2012, 10:50:49 PM
I will post them after x-mas....
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: P4Angels on December 25, 2012, 03:59:22 PM

Updates on fish room:


100 gallon tank update



50 gallon planted w/ Discus:
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: Mugwump on December 25, 2012, 04:04:52 PM
Looking good...nice
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: P4Angels on December 25, 2012, 04:29:19 PM


Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: Mugwump on December 25, 2012, 04:40:32 PM
Nice clip...and some real sweet pairs.. 8)
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: Barb on December 25, 2012, 07:03:40 PM
You have some beautiful pairs in those tanks!
Barb
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: P4Angels on December 26, 2012, 06:50:38 PM

So here are the pic's as of 12.26.12


Breeders:
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i453/Aron_Jemison/121224_0001_zps1c2e0652.jpg)


Grow outs in the middle and odd projects on top:


(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i453/Aron_Jemison/121224_0002_zpsff802df3.jpg)


Shrimp tanks

(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i453/Aron_Jemison/121224_0005_zps4303f0df.jpg)


Another rack (40 bottom, 50 middle, and 40 on top)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i453/Aron_Jemison/121224_0003_zps54ce1361.jpg)


Other rack w/ Sump
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i453/Aron_Jemison/IMG_0080.jpg)

Not pictured (in our living room):
100 Gallon planted tank
55 gallon Neolamprologus Multifasciatus (Shell Dwellers)

20 gallon breeder (Lori's cories breeding group)
14 gallon saltwater Nano
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: Mugwump on December 26, 2012, 06:58:13 PM
Nicely lit up for mood making, I see...nice place to chill.....sweet....everythings looking real good, nice job...ahem...where's the speakers,etc....Hmmmm....got to have tunes, right?... ;D
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: P4Angels on December 26, 2012, 07:08:24 PM
Our computer are under the shrimp tanks...  Got tunes going almost all day  8)
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: Mugwump on December 26, 2012, 07:16:10 PM
cool....channel this on there.....
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: PaulineMi on December 26, 2012, 08:49:08 PM
Your set up and fish all look great! 

Jon provided good tunes also.  :)
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: P4Angels on December 30, 2012, 12:33:49 AM

So we went for our semi monthly run through Costco.  Walking through the rows as we always do.  I saw this LED light kit.


(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Sylvania-Mosaic-8-ft-Color-Changing-Flexible-LEDS-Light-w-Wireless-Remote-/00/s/MzAwWDMwMA==/$(KGrHqZ,!pQFCpIuroNBBQ3hFyLm,Q~~60_35.JPG)


For $28.00. The kit come with 4 foot long LED strips, a remote to change colors, a power supply and a control unit.


(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21A4kuYi8yL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)


I Thought hmmmm I want to give this a try. So I got it home put it together and tested it on just the white led. held it up to a dark tank and stood back and said, "Nope sorry just not enough power to fill the tanks with enough lights". Lori agreed with me so I thought    damn that's not gonna work.  What else can I do with these.  Then it hit me  ...  Lets try something and see if that will do the job. I hooked up 2 of the 4 LED strips and held them over the top of the tank and pressed the blue button on the remote. It looked something like this in the tank:




(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i453/Aron_Jemison/IMG_0230_zpsbbb9ae6b.jpg)


Lori was impressed with that idea.  Only one problem how to get them to work on the big rack, one each rack.  The kit came with 4 little connectors to connect the 4 strands together.  consisting of a Positive a red green and blue pin set.  The kit comes with 3 connectors I cut one of them in half (what the hell I have 2 more) stripped back the wires and they are the same colors as indicated on the connector. this should be easy right?   I had an RJ45 cable that had a bad connector end on it and thought okay I have seen some one do that on Mugwump forum so I'll give it a try. I wire it color for color except the red to orange and cut off all the other wires. soldered them together wrapped them with tape.  After completing both sides I did a test run and it work like a charm.   


Then I installed 2 LED strips to the hood (a DIY rain gutter hood with 5 CFL evenly spaced lights in it) using the double faced tape I a fixed it to inside bottom of the hood and place the other 2 LED strips to the front side cross beam of the middle rack and this is how it came out :   

(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i453/Aron_Jemison/IMG_0236_zps0f19f5ca.jpg)


Please keep in mind that I'm going to add access panel between the bottom of the top row and the top of the tanks soon.  That way you won't see the main lights or the LED's there soon


On a scale of 1 to 5 for this build I would have to give it a 2.  Only because my eyes are not the same as they used to be and them wires are tiny.


I hope you enjoyed this as much as we do. I think that it adds a nice look to the tanks and I hope that my Breeders like the little light while tending to there Fry late at night.
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: Mugwump on December 30, 2012, 08:11:07 AM
Love it....great 'night' light.....nice job.... ;D
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: BallAquatics on December 30, 2012, 08:15:30 AM
That's very cool, great job!

Dennis
Title: Re: Fish Room face lift Day 1
Post by: PaulineMi on December 30, 2012, 10:12:13 AM
"Dark Side of the Moon" atmosphere.  Nice.