What is everybody using to hatch bbs?....currently, I'm using the 2 ltr bottle rig setup...works pretty well...I use an old 10gal tank, with a small heater, and plop it in there...add water/sea salt and air....boomba....18hrs or so....bbs
Same as you if I remember right..... :P
For real small batches, I still use a 14oz Starbucks capaccino bottle...fill to almost the neck, add 1 tbsp sea salt, eggs and use an air stone to keep the 'froth' down a bit....this works for 1/4 tsp and less......
I'm a micro worm kinda guy.
Quote from: Rjb3 on October 20, 2012, 07:05:42 PM
I'm a micro worm kinda guy.
I like the microworm family too...but nothing quite gets healthy angel fry growing like bbs, imho...after a week or so, I do feed the microworms, in addition.....just for variety..plus we make our cultures with baby oatmeal, choked full of vitamins....
I was just being kind of a wise guy. You do make hatching bbs look easy with your setup.
Quote from: Rjb3 on October 20, 2012, 07:19:00 PM
I was just being kind of a wise guy. You do make hatching bbs look easy with your setup.
hehe...I know...and thanks, it works for me....keeping the bbs hatchery very clean is something that must be adhered to.....bacteria build up will wipe out that spawn that you wanted....big time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8sNx9zTOnQ&feature=player_embedded This is how I made Mine
Has anyone tried to grow the bbs to adulthood?
Not here, it can get tedious.....
With all those hungry mouths to feed. Not a chance, right?
Yep, The bbs hatchery isn't bad to do....the microworms pretty much do their thing..but raising adult BS.....naw......
On the microworms, we experimented with adding Nutra-rose ( ASTAXANTHIN ) to the mixture....it turns it a redish/orange color....to see if Koi fry would color up better/sooner/fuller....Koi genetics determine the overall/density of color possible.... melanin/pigment are enhanced and nurtured with natural food ingredients....thus/and....
Pigments are characterized by their colors. Carotenoid pigments are red and orange. Xanthophylls are yellow. Melanin pigments are black and brown. Phycocyanin is the blue pigment derived from blue-green algae. Cells containing yellow pigments overlying those containing blue pigments can produce green hues. Fish are capable of producing some pigments, but others must be supplied in the diet. Black and brown pigments are produced in cells called melanocytes. Fish are incapable of producing carotenoid and xanthophyll pigments. Therefore, these must be supplied in the diet.
Color enhancing diets may contain additional natural pigments to enhance colors of ornamental fishes. The carotenoid pigment found in most marine and a few freshwater invertebrates is astaxanthin. This pigment gives the characteristic color to the flesh of salmon and is available in the diet of aquarium fish in shrimp and krill meals and salmon (fish) meal used as sources of protein in some feeds. Pure astaxanthin or canthaxanthin (synthetic astaxanthin) may also be added to fish feed to enhance red and orange coloration. Xanthophylls (yellow pigments) are found in corn gluten meal and dried egg that may be added to the diet to enhance yellows. The ground petals of marigold flowers have also been used as a source of xanthophylls. The blue-green algae spirulina is a rich source of phycocyanin and may be added to a diet to enhance blue coloration. The expense of supplementary pigments often limits the amount used in tropical fish feeds. These natural sources of pigments are in contrast to several methods routinely used to enhance colors of ornamental fish.
I add spirulina, kelp, and powdered Chia seeds to all my small worm cultures. It provides all essential amino acids, all kinds of minerals, and huge amounts of Omega 3,6 and 9 fatty acids to the worms. They then provide these essential nutrients to the fry.
First, I experimented with Cod liver oil to provide Omega 3,6,and 9 fatty acids to the worm cultures. Duh! The sides of the container were to slippery for the worms to climb. Chia seeds have huge amounts of Omegas in them and actually keep the cultures more firm. The life of the cultures doubled after adding Chia.
"The life of the cultures doubled after adding Chia."
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really?...where do you get chia seeds???...rob the chia pet boxes??....I'd like to try that if it increases the culture life...
Back to brine shrimp hatchery set ups. You can't beat the cheap base available an any fish store with a 2 liter bottle for value. I have fancy expensive cone shaped ones, and they are no better.
I put mine on the counter top. Some people think they need to be warmer. Some people think they need light! I've found that not to be the case. Mine always hatch in 12 hrs and are ready to feed.
Dang.....12hrs is a quick hatch....temp's do play in the time to hatch, around 80degs is best...I use real good eggs and they'll hatch in about 14-16hrs...for the real small 'newly' hatched... normally tho, I harvest at about 20hrs.....
Chia Seeds Direct is where I got them. However, they are whole seeds. They gum up the grinder. I scoped out another source that sells them powdered. They were $12 more for the same four pounds, but it'll be worth it to have them already powdered. I'll look for it.
Or, I could bring ya some seeds and you could gum up your grinder. LOL Seriously, I've got a couple pounds left. Let me put them on the bring Jon & Jan list.
It could be more that 12 hrs. When I have fry, I start 2 BS hatcheries about 12 hrs apart. When it gets to the point where I see the BS haven't hatched when I need them, I start a third. When I have fry I want the food to fall in front of their mouths to the point they have to take a stab at it even if they're full. I can get away with it because as a Discus person, I'm a water changin' fool.
My hatcheries are in my fish room. The room is warm and humid. I like warm and humid and the BS appear to enjoy it, too.
Thanks, Bob..... 8)
Liz, that nice warm room in awful nice in winter. isn't it?....
You bet, Jon. I guess I got off topic a little. What made me think of it was talking to a fellow a couple years ago that worked at the Shedd Aquarium. He was breeding Moon jellyfish to feed the Sea Turtles. He introduced hufas to the bbs he fed to the jellyfish. I didn't stop experimenting until I figured out a way to put the hufas in micro worms. It's amazing the people you meet in this fish hobby of ours.
I've never done this and would really like to for my angelfish. Lots of info here to help thanks everyone!