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THE POND-THE FRESHWATER PLACE => Angelfish => Topic started by: Mugwump on April 23, 2013, 01:17:53 PM

Title: 'HE' spawns
Post by: Mugwump on April 23, 2013, 01:17:53 PM
Frank gave me some 'HE' veils to go with my std fins. I put them all in a 110gal. Now it seems that 'someone' has spawned on one of the sponge lift tubes and it looks like another is going to spawn soon on a slate at one end. Right now things are...shall we say, turbulent....now to find out who's with who....looks like a group grope at the moment....sheesh..

ps...'HE'....'het everything'....
Title: Re: 'HE' spawns
Post by: Frank The Plumber on April 23, 2013, 01:45:36 PM
Yup. I had to do a lot of water changes for the power outage thing and it kicked my young breeders into breeding mode. I have three pairs of the het hb pb's now. I have 4 fish that are true and proper Hb's in the group Two are most likely ladies and two boys. I can't wait for a spawn from those 4. They are all by themselves in a 120 so they don't get caught up in the power outage BS.
Title: Re: 'HE' spawns
Post by: Mugwump on April 23, 2013, 01:57:08 PM
Here's vid while standing back a bit....

Title: Re: 'HE' spawns
Post by: PaulineMi on April 23, 2013, 03:48:29 PM
Quite the group .... a who's who of angels.  ;D
Title: Re: 'HE' spawns
Post by: Frank The Plumber on April 23, 2013, 05:01:20 PM
One dose Hb, one pb, one A, one blush. Hoping that when they pair up that they will be at least 25% hb/hb s/s, Half black silver,10% Hb/hb pb/pb, Half black pinoy, Hb blush, Hb blush pinoy, Hb/hb pb/pb s/-, Half black ghost or cobalt, Half black albino= 1 in 15 million chance to have just one. Those look really well shaped out. The father was a Gibbs Pb Pb A A  so they have that chunky Gibbs face and head shape. I have another group of around 20 out of  400 or so that I kept from the next batch that express the half black almost perfectly as Hb ghost pb. Those are around dime to nickel in size. The back up plan. If all goes well we might be sort of popular Jon.
Title: Re: 'HE' spawns
Post by: Mugwump on April 23, 2013, 05:12:47 PM
So far no casualties....I'll let the first spawn ride, I like the pairs to bond, and get the protective juices flowing. Yep, Frank.....there will be some jewels, after all is sorted out...a fun ride for sure...
Title: Re: 'HE' spawns
Post by: Frank The Plumber on April 23, 2013, 05:17:34 PM
I have the Turqs, the velvets, the blushers in Hb coming up too. He he. Veil albino ghosts, veil albino pearls, blue marble veils. I'm about to go nuts though because they hit a water main while coring in the new power pole. Holy smokes I hope my battery keeps power going to my air pump for a few hours. I have an inverter and a full tank of gas in my truck.
Title: Re: 'HE' spawns
Post by: Mugwump on April 23, 2013, 05:29:07 PM
I have a couple black ghosts, that I've been saving, spawn in the 75 with the turq's....feisty little female too.....looks like I may have to set up a couple new 20's that I got at Petco....LOL..the turq's are cleaning the slate at the other end....koi spawn in the 2 1/2, another Mana pair fry about go wigglers...and the Pinoy clown/PB Smokey pair are cleaning....hifin cories and Melini's are rumbling....and the PB Zebra and one of the 'HE' males are about to go off....good grief...more water changes tomorrow....between us, this fall we'll have some swap winners... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I guess that I should mention that the Albino plats are pairing off now too....hmmmm..maybe a kiddie pool for grow out....??...two???...LOL
Title: Re: 'HE' spawns
Post by: Mugwump on April 23, 2013, 06:12:45 PM
LOL...well Frank, the daddy in the 75 is a Turq, not a black ghost....nice....
Title: Re: 'HE' spawns
Post by: Frank The Plumber on April 24, 2013, 05:47:36 PM
The Turq is Hb het. 1/2 bro sis to the HE's. I'm dying here crossing my eyes ears fingers and toes that my guys pop colors. I've been reading the pronto thread, I was getting a bit worried my kids would miss their timing, c'mon kids make me a happy boy. I'll build you fishy kids a central room that the fish gods will envy.
Title: Re: 'HE' spawns
Post by: Mugwump on April 25, 2013, 01:17:37 PM
Quote from: Frank The Plumber on April 24, 2013, 05:47:36 PM
The Turq is Hb het. 1/2 bro sis to the HE's. I'm dying here crossing my eyes ears fingers and toes that my guys pop colors. I've been reading the pronto thread, I was getting a bit worried my kids would miss their timing, c'mon kids make me a happy boy. I'll build you fishy kids a central room that the fish gods will envy.

They're doing a wonderful job of tending the spawn....wigglers, and quite a few left.. ;D
Title: Re: 'HE' spawns
Post by: Frank The Plumber on April 26, 2013, 09:28:15 PM
Boom, three pairs spawned today. One pair full half black Pb/- expressing veils. All three spawns in their own each 2.5 gallon.
Title: Re: 'HE' spawns
Post by: Mugwump on April 27, 2013, 05:24:26 AM
Cool..... ;D....
Title: Re: 'HE' spawns
Post by: P4Angels on April 27, 2013, 07:41:03 PM
WOW frank if you need some to go to a good home.  I Would love to have them... lol
Title: Re: 'HE' spawns
Post by: Mugwump on April 27, 2013, 07:42:30 PM
Quote from: P4Angels on April 27, 2013, 07:41:03 PM
WOW frank if you need some to go to a good home.  I Would love to have them... lol

;D
Title: Re: 'HE' spawns
Post by: Frank The Plumber on April 27, 2013, 09:13:57 PM
I have the tank with the expressing Hb/Hb Pb/- A/- V/+ S/-  eggs Marked as Mucho $#%^ing importante. Me no wana kill these. I have to put some pics up of some of my stuff. I'm getting into breeding a lot of my hybrids and popping some phenotypes for trait setting. I'm settling into the creation of a lot of my own lines.

Title: Re: 'HE' spawns
Post by: pashley on April 28, 2013, 01:37:26 AM
i would love to get some of these let me know when you guys might be ready to let some of them go. i will take pea size on up. they sound...yummy
:p
Title: Re: 'HE' spawns
Post by: Frank The Plumber on April 29, 2013, 06:07:15 PM
Wigglers, 3 tanks, around 1800 or so in total. % pairs now. :)
Title: Re: 'HE' spawns
Post by: Mugwump on April 29, 2013, 06:25:59 PM
Boomba !!!..let there be life.... ;D
Title: Re: 'HE' spawns
Post by: Frank The Plumber on April 29, 2013, 09:04:29 PM
I put a group of 6 expressing standards on aqua bid to see how the market is going to be for them. You and Leslie James have the back up stock in case I ever lose these to a disease or something. As I develop them the stocks of each of you will be updated. I am simultaneously developing a line of bronze blushers. This line consists of a cross between a sunset koi and a smokey gold marble blush. Within this mix I get a blue blusher. With a second hit of gold the guanine layer has become bronze instead of the blue guanine. I will select the best of these bronze fish showing the most prolific bronze and cross them into a turquiose streaked half black. This hybrid I will cross directly to my half black blush within the HE line. This may give me a path towards a half black bronze blush. If the guanine levels can be amplified as in a paraiba but a bronze I should be able to create a half black bronze. I see bronze on the HE's despite the half black expressing and the dose of blue.