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Title: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: Mugwump on August 03, 2015, 02:20:52 PM
I hope '8's ok down there..... ???

The Anclote River is currently at more than 20 feet and is predicted to exceed flood stage at 24 feet on Monday, Tampa Bay Online reported. The National Weather Service also issued a flood warning.
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: PaulineMi on August 03, 2015, 02:22:09 PM
Hope he's okay too. I just saw all the flooding down there!
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: Ron Sower on August 03, 2015, 03:01:54 PM
Hey, Graphic! Give us a shout to let us know how you're doing!!!
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: LizStreithorst on August 03, 2015, 05:09:13 PM
I had no idea.  Give us a head's up.  We fear that you're in the soup.
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: GraphicGr8s on August 03, 2015, 08:48:47 PM
In another thread here I posted that Tampa would have to be 20' under water before I flood. But I really appreciate you guys and the concern. You guys are really great.

I am towards the top of the area. My neighbors however down at the valley have Cypress Creek that normally is a trickle. Not today. I came up the road and thank God they are in mobile homes. They are above the ground level and that is good. Cypress Creek overflowed and has taken over their yards. All their horses are now in my backyard neighbor's stable. During the day I am letting them put  a few of the horses over here to graze and keep them apart from Debbie's horses. (My neighbor at the back of my property.) She asked me today but she knows it goes without saying the answer is always yes.
The neighbors down in the valley I don't know at all. But if they need help well, whatever I can do I will.
As far as I know right now no one has water in the house.

It is pretty bad though. Like you said the Anclote hasn't even crested yet. And while we've gone to 40-50% chance of rain the ground is saturated. Roads in Tampa have been closed. Exits off of I275 were shut down. The Gandy bridge was shut down for a while.

One good thing is no wind.
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: LizStreithorst on August 03, 2015, 09:13:39 PM
Do us a favor and give us an update every day while this lasts.
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: GraphicGr8s on August 03, 2015, 09:23:45 PM
Back in 95 we were up in NY on vacation in Sept and we wound up with 3' of water in the house. Somewhere in the $20-40 grand range in damages. And no flood insurance not that it would have helped any with what was required. We had tropical storm Jerry go through after a super wet summer.
In 98 when I saw the water coming up yet again I was home. Me and my father in law went to HD to get stakes/1x6 and plastic. County was giving sandbags so I got over 100. Built a dam around the house and rented two pumps to just pump the water from one side of the dam to the other. I was up for 48 hours straight keeping the pumps going and fixing blowouts in the dam.
Neighbors, friends, even my boss was there with me to put it up and get it going. God was watching over me. The dam wasn't where I was heading in my thought process.

We got water in the house when the dam would blow out but as soon as I got it patched it was dry.

All that being said I will say this. After about 24 hours I got to lay down for a bit and lament and watch the news. I started thinking how bad I had it. Until I watched the news and the Mississippi was overflowing and I watched as houses were washing away. I got down on my knees and started praying for those people. I lost some personal stuff and more money. Those people lost everything. It was a learning moment for me.
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: GraphicGr8s on August 03, 2015, 09:32:33 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on August 03, 2015, 09:13:39 PM
Do us a favor and give us an update every day while this lasts.
I'll try. I don't really traverse the areas that have flooded. Elfers and Trinity are a distance from me. I do go by them when I go to Anclote Park to go fishing though.  And I am never in South Tampa where most of the flooding is now. Much of the flooding there will go down depending on the tide and the gulf flush. Most of these areas have problems during a normal heavy downpour. Most of those areas never should have been developed in the first place.

BTW that last post of mine was my former house not this one. And it's never flooded since and I think even now it's dry. God wanted me out of there. I did a heck of a lot of remodeling on that house. I loved it probably more than this one built for us. Had a 90 in the wall of the family room I built. And a 7' deep bay window I custom built.
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: Mugwump on August 04, 2015, 05:19:58 AM
..it's good to hear that you've avoided the water so far..here's hoping the rains hold off, or at least are light.....and no winds...
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: GraphicGr8s on August 04, 2015, 07:52:22 AM
We are down to about a 30% chance of rain for most of the week. Unfortunately for those in the Elfers and Trinity area the Anclote won't crest until Friday.
They had video on this mornings news about the Town and Country area and it's still underwater. Things will probably get a little worse vis a vis flooding and waiting for the rivers to crest even though the rains have subsided.
I looked over on my way out this morning and it appears that the water has not made it into the houses at the end of my road. Still have AC units and wells under water but at least they are still at home. I remember those days pretty vividly.

I'm not sure but I think if you go to myfoxtampabay . com you can see the videos and pictures I see on TV.
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: GraphicGr8s on August 04, 2015, 07:56:14 AM
Almost forgot.
When I got to the end of the road yesterday going to work there were walking catfish crossing.

Neighbor said that they were there Saturday also.
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: Mugwump on August 04, 2015, 08:03:43 AM
Quote from: GraphicGr8s on August 04, 2015, 07:56:14 AM
Almost forgot.
When I got to the end of the road yesterday going to work there were walking catfish crossing.

Neighbor said that they were there Saturday also.

I hope they don't venture too far, they'll need to back track as the water recedes.... ;D
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: GraphicGr8s on August 04, 2015, 09:13:22 AM
Most if not all get run over. But as I was stopped waiting to get onto the main road one was right there on the side of me. If I wasn't going to work he would be in a tank.
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: Mugwump on August 04, 2015, 09:23:03 AM
Quote from: GraphicGr8s on August 04, 2015, 09:13:22 AM
Most if not all get run over. But as I was stopped waiting to get onto the main road one was right there on the side of me. If I wasn't going to work he would be in a tank.

LOL...probably yak at ya the whole trip home too...... ;D
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: GraphicGr8s on August 04, 2015, 09:24:43 AM
I've got customers around this place.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204692690264888&set=a.1109253019269.2017025.1465140077&type=1&theater
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: Mugwump on August 04, 2015, 10:17:23 AM
Quote from: GraphicGr8s on August 04, 2015, 09:24:43 AM
I've got customers around this place.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204692690264888&set=a.1109253019269.2017025.1465140077&type=1&theater

LOL...... ;D
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: big b on August 04, 2015, 11:13:08 PM
Good thing you didn't keep that catfish, this site says they are i legal to keep in tanks http://www.tampabay.com/news/environment/heavy-rains-flush-out-walking-catfish-onto-streets/752804
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: GraphicGr8s on August 05, 2015, 08:56:23 AM
Yeah I know they're illegal to keep. And since I may be going for my aquaculture permit in Jan I wouldn't keep it anyway.

My aunt and uncle used to have them on their farm in the 70's though. I remember her telling me about them in the early 80's. That and a bunch of other "illegals" they had permits for. My uncle would forget to carry them and have my aunt bring them down to the police station.
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: big b on August 05, 2015, 04:06:33 PM
If I was you I would keep them in my tank anyway. If I was found out I would say "they are in a holding tank to eat later" but later never comes :).
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: Ron Sower on August 05, 2015, 05:21:59 PM
Quote from: big b on August 05, 2015, 04:06:33 PM
If I was you I would keep them in my tank anyway. If I was found out I would say "they are in a holding tank to eat later" but later never comes :).

I think we're going to have to look after this feller! Keep a reserve of bail money for him...!
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: Mugwump on August 05, 2015, 05:39:34 PM
Quote from: Ron Sower on August 05, 2015, 05:21:59 PM
Quote from: big b on August 05, 2015, 04:06:33 PM
If I was you I would keep them in my tank anyway. If I was found out I would say "they are in a holding tank to eat later" but later never comes :).

I think we're going to have to look after this feller! Keep a reserve of bail money for him...!


LOL.... ;D....he'd be released to his parents...
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: Ron Sower on August 05, 2015, 06:29:06 PM
Quote from: Mugwump on August 05, 2015, 05:39:34 PM
Quote from: Ron Sower on August 05, 2015, 05:21:59 PM
Quote from: big b on August 05, 2015, 04:06:33 PM
If I was you I would keep them in my tank anyway. If I was found out I would say "they are in a holding tank to eat later" but later never comes :).

I think we're going to have to look after this feller! Keep a reserve of bail money for him...!


LOL.... ;D....he'd be released to his parents...

What about it, BB? Will they post bail and take you back in? 
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: big b on August 05, 2015, 09:31:16 PM
Aww no they wouldn't they would let me learn my lesson. It may seem cruel but I know they love me :). Haha I can only imagine it, "Mom, Dad, I'm in jail for keeping a fish, can you pay my bail?" "We love you very much but no! This is a good learning opportunity for you"
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: PaulineMi on August 06, 2015, 01:02:47 AM
Quote from: big b on August 05, 2015, 09:31:16 PM
Aww no they wouldn't they would let me learn my lesson. It may seem cruel but I know they love me :). Haha I can only imagine it, "Mom, Dad, I'm in jail for keeping a fish, can you pay my bail?" "We love you very much but no! This is a good learning opportunity for you"

Excellent way for them to handle it and that you know and respect it.  :)
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: big b on August 06, 2015, 05:35:38 AM
Yeah I respect my parents, everything they do is to help benefit my growth and I love them for that. :)
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: Ron Sower on August 06, 2015, 10:17:56 AM
Quote from: PaulineMi on August 06, 2015, 01:02:47 AM
Quote from: big b on August 05, 2015, 09:31:16 PM
Aww no they wouldn't they would let me learn my lesson. It may seem cruel but I know they love me :). Haha I can only imagine it, "Mom, Dad, I'm in jail for keeping a fish, can you pay my bail?" "We love you very much but no! This is a good learning opportunity for you"

Excellent way for them to handle it and that you know and respect it.  :)

I don't want to put a downer on this, but have to say that I used to feel the same as you think your parents feel, BB. When raising my kids. I told them I'd come get them any where, any time, except if in jail for drinking and driving. Then they could stay overnight and learn their lesson. Never had to do that. They were good kids like you seem to be. However, I did hear about a kid whose parents didn't come bail him out and he was treated very roughly and inhumane by the other incarcerates because he was so young that he committed suicide. I can't remember if it was while in jail or when he got out.  The parents are the one that learned the lesson. A very sad one at that!

I guess if I were to do it all over again, I wouldn't put that condition on coming to help them.
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: BallAquatics on August 06, 2015, 01:23:29 PM
I would imagine that you would have went to get them Ron if it came to that regardless of what you told them beforehand.

Dennis
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: GraphicGr8s on August 06, 2015, 01:24:53 PM
Well it seems as though one house was flooded on my street. Saw the mattresses etc out of the house.

The Anclote, while still above flood stage is receding. Most other areas seem to be OK but the damage is done.

Even if doesn't rain the rest of the year we are almost 21" above our average ANNUAL rainfall.
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: Ron Sower on August 06, 2015, 04:19:32 PM
Quote from: BallAquatics on August 06, 2015, 01:23:29 PM
I would imagine that you would have went to get them Ron if it came to that regardless of what you told them beforehand.

Dennis

You are right!  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: big b on August 07, 2015, 06:41:01 PM
Quote from: Ron Sower on August 05, 2015, 06:29:06 PM
Quote from: Mugwump on August 05, 2015, 05:39:34 PM
Quote from: Ron Sower on August 05, 2015, 05:21:59 PM
Quote from: big b on August 05, 2015, 04:06:33 PM
If I was you I would keep them in my tank anyway. If I was found out I would say "they are in a holding tank to eat later" but later never comes :).

I think we're going to have to look after this feller! Keep a reserve of bail money for him...!


LOL.... ;D....he'd be released to his parents...

What about it, BB? Will they post bail and take you back in?
Actually there is another reason that they would leave me, they would have to sell the house to get the money to bail me out.
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: b125killer on August 07, 2015, 06:58:06 PM
I had a "friend" that got busted for stealing a car. He was a minor at the time. His dad told the police he wasn't going to get him out of jail. the police told his dad that if he didn't they would arrest him for neglect. This Kid now an adult is in jail now for all kinds of bad things. I guess they should of just kept him when they had the chance. Might of made a difference in his life.   
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: big b on August 07, 2015, 07:02:52 PM
Neglect?!?! That is a load of **** right there. I have a story of neglect. My birth mother didn't feed me for about A WEEK!!!! I ALMOST DIED!!!! That is neglect not no stupid **** like that. If I was that father and he said that to me then I would have kicked him so hard in his junk that he wouldn't be able to stand up for an hour. Humph, neglect my ***.
Sorry it just gets to me how people throw the word neglect around. Until they have faced real neglection they they oughta shut up.
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: Ron Sower on August 08, 2015, 11:54:40 AM
Now THAT'S  a  RANT!  Short and sweet..!  hmmm....maybe not so sweet... :'(
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: big b on August 08, 2015, 12:44:39 PM
Yeah, I had a hard first few weeks of life until my new parents adopted me.
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: GraphicGr8s on August 08, 2015, 11:35:06 PM
It is simply amazing the turns our threads take.
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: big b on August 09, 2015, 12:54:48 AM
Yep
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: Ron Sower on August 09, 2015, 09:53:31 AM
Quote from: GraphicGr8s on August 08, 2015, 11:35:06 PM
It is simply amazing the turns our threads take.

Speaking of turns....whose turn is it to host the next Mugwumps Summer BBQ?  Just kidding of course...but wouldn't it be a hoot?!
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: Rjb3 on August 09, 2015, 10:13:31 AM
Quote from: Ron Sower on August 09, 2015, 09:53:31 AM
Quote from: GraphicGr8s on August 08, 2015, 11:35:06 PM
It is simply amazing the turns our threads take.

Speaking of turns....whose turn is it to host the next Mugwumps Summer BBQ?  Just kidding of course...but wouldn't it be a hoot?!

Did I miss the first one?
Title: Re: Tampa Bay flooding....
Post by: Ron Sower on August 09, 2015, 10:16:23 AM
Quote from: Rjb3 on August 09, 2015, 10:13:31 AM
Quote from: Ron Sower on August 09, 2015, 09:53:31 AM
Quote from: GraphicGr8s on August 08, 2015, 11:35:06 PM
It is simply amazing the turns our threads take.

Speaking of turns....whose turn is it to host the next Mugwumps Summer BBQ?  Just kidding of course...but wouldn't it be a hoot?!

Did I miss the first one?

I think we all did...!