OK I have a question for the Angelfish experts.
I have a Paraiba (+/g,S/S,pb/pb) and a Blue Zebra (Z/S,pb/pb) pair. I am looking at some of the youngsters, (nickel - quarter size) and some of them are white fish with black patches. Maybe 20% of the batch. They are probably clowns.
Here is what I think I know: 1. The gold gene masks Zebra so the Zebra can't have a gold gene. 2. It takes 2 gold genes (g/g) and and two blue genes to make a white fish ie. Platinums. 3 The gold gene does not express in single dose (+/g)
So where did the white fish come from? A single dose g expressing as white in combo with the blue? The Zebra is actually a silver with a gold gene but expressing a third body stripe? Somehow they got 2 gold genes from the Paraiba?
Maybe there is something I have missed.
Quote from: waterboy on September 09, 2018, 12:28:23 PM
OK I have a question for the Angelfish experts.
I have a Paraiba (+/g,S/S,pb/pb) and a Blue Zebra (Z/S,pb/pb) pair. I am looking at some of the youngsters, (nickel - quarter size) and some of them are white fish with black patches. Maybe 20% of the batch. They are probably clowns.
Here is what I think I know: 1. The gold gene masks Zebra so the Zebra can't have a gold gene. 2. It takes 2 gold genes (g/g) and and two blue genes to make a white fish ie. Platinums. 3 The gold gene does not express in single dose (+/g)
So where did the white fish come from? A single dose g expressing as white in combo with the blue? The Zebra is actually a silver with a gold gene but expressing a third body stripe? Somehow they got 2 gold genes from the Paraiba?
Maybe there is something I have missed.
I'm thinking the zebra does have a gold gene hidden in single dose......do the white fry have caudal zebra markings?.
No the white fry do not have any markings on the caudal or dorsal fins.
I guess that is probably the explanation, but he is definitely showing three full body stripes and striations in the dorsal fin. Might just be a Blue Silver with an extra body stripe but I thought a single dose gold would mask the expression of Zebra. I must be wrong.
Quote from: waterboy on September 09, 2018, 04:45:30 PM
No the white fry do not have any markings on the caudal or dorsal fins.
I guess that is probably the explanation, but he is definitely showing three full body stripes and striations in the dorsal fin. Might just be a Blue Silver with an extra body stripe but I thought a single dose gold would mask the expression of Zebra. I must be wrong.
.....yes, it takes two golds to mask zebra or silver or smokey.....but strange fry do pop up for no apparent reason occasionally..... huh
Dale....sent you a PM...what are you bringing to the swap?
Ok, that explains it if it takes 2 gold genes to mask the zebra, I thought it only took one.
I replied to your message before I saw this so in addition to the trade offer I will bring:
Smokey Superveils, some Nickle size, a couple prebreeders
Black Superveils, some nickle size, a couple prebreeders.
Pinoys, maybe Lace, D/+ or Hybrid D/g, maybe het for bg.
Blue Silvers prebreeders.
Some of the White Clowns, nickle - quarter size.
Some of their sibling Blue Clowns, nickle - quarter size.
A couple Platinum prebreeders.
A couple Gold prebreeders het for pearlscale.
Might be a few others but that is all I can think of off the top of my head.