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[Mugwump]

...didn't it come with DOS ?...or at least later versions of it..??

Not any version that I had.  The first versions of DOS up to probably version 4.0 didn't even come with an editor.  You got the OS and some command line tools and the GW Basic interpreter.  Around version 4 they threw in a basic editor and some memory management utilities.

Dennis

I could have sworn that about ver 5, or 6 they added it in.....oh well.....LOL....I got it (pkzip) somewhere then....??

[BallAquatics]

Maybe you are thinking of the DoubleSpace drive compression utility?

Here's all the versions and what they shipped with.....  https://winworldpc.com/product/ms-dos/1x

Dennis

[Mugwump]

Maybe you are thinking of the DoubleSpace drive compression utility?

Here's all the versions and what they shipped with.....  https://winworldpc.com/product/ms-dos/1x

Dennis

try these.....

https://winworldpc.com/product/ms-dos       ver (5)

https://winworldpc.com/product/ms-dos/6x

[BallAquatics]

Yea, version 6 had the disk compression, but it was far different from PKZip's file compression.  As I recall the DOS compression was buggy as all get-out and they changed it with every version.... 6.0, 6.2, 6.21, 6.22, etc

It wasn't until 5.0 that they added the full editor.....

Yep, back then I could rock a computer programming in assembly language and hi-level MS professional basic, (more like Pascal with modules and sub-routines).  I was a contract programmer back then and PC networks weren't even around yet.  LOL

Dennis

[Mugwump]

Yea, version 6 had the disk compression, but it was far different from PKZip's file compression.  As I recall the DOS compression was buggy as all get-out and they changed it with every version.... 6.0, 6.2, 6.21, 6.22, etc

It wasn't until 5.0 that they added the full editor.....

Yep, back then I could rock a computer programming in assembly language and hi-level MS professional basic, (more like Pascal with modules and sub-routines).  I was a contract programmer back then and PC networks weren't even around yet.  LOL

Dennis

I remember the DOS 6 disks for Corporate installations .....I helped install them in all our old IBM laptops......what a pain....MicroSoft wrote in C++ didn't they..??    by the by.....DOS games were the greatest......

http://www.dosgamesarchive.com/

[BallAquatics]

It was probably just plain C back then.  C++ was to come later with "object-oriented" concepts.  C was a higher level language than assembly and therefore supposed to be much easier, but I always thought it was a PITA and it didn't have the power of assembly.  At any rate, most of the languages did the same thing, you wrote the easy stuff in the high level language, and when you needed speed and power you coded in assembly and then linked those modules in when you compiled the final code to make your .exe program.

These days it's nothing but sloppy code using interpreted languages, scripts really.  It's like fashions, we're moving back to client server based systems, (the cloud), where most of the work is done on the server and that's where all the software gets updated.  I've been doing that with many of my clients for quite some time now and it sure makes things easier on the admins.

Just imagine if every time the forum software needed updating, that we had to update all the systems using it rather than just the server that runs it.  LOL

Dennis

[GraphicGr8s]

Back in HS I learned to program in Fortran. Use to come up with games too.