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THE POND-THE FRESHWATER PLACE => Angelfish => Topic started by: wsantia1 on August 26, 2019, 09:40:36 AM

Title: Plat Spawn
Post by: wsantia1 on August 26, 2019, 09:40:36 AM
I have a very young pair spawning on a slate as I am typing this. It is their 2nd spawn. The first time they spawned on the intake tube just above where the water goes in. They are 6 months old. I am now trying to decide to pull or not to pull.

It's been a while so I will probably pull but I would like to see them raise. I am afraid that at their age they may not be ready. There were three plats in that tank but they beat the hell out of the other one so I moved him out before he was killed.

Decisions, decisions......
Title: Re: Plat Spawn
Post by: Mugwump on August 26, 2019, 10:18:23 AM
..yank it.....then back to the learner's permit.... |^|
Title: Re: Plat Spawn
Post by: wsantia1 on August 26, 2019, 11:41:53 AM
Yep. they are yanked and when my customer left he left me with 3 empty tanks so I will have lots of grow out space and 150 dollars more in my wallet. mim mim mim mim mim
Title: Re: Plat Spawn
Post by: Mugwump on August 26, 2019, 12:21:27 PM
Quote from: wsantia1 on August 26, 2019, 11:41:53 AM
Yep. they are yanked and when my customer left he left me with 3 empty tanks so I will have lots of grow out space and 150 dollars more in my wallet. mim mim mim mim mim

...yeah baby..... |^|.....love those visitors too....had the same yesterday but didn't clear any tanks...LOL...but we've got some empties ready when needed  |^|
Title: Re: Plat Spawn
Post by: wsantia1 on August 27, 2019, 09:49:44 AM
Critical time now as about 1/3 of the eggs have turned white. We are using H2O2 to keep any fungus at bay so it looks pretty good right now. Hopefully all of the unfertilized eggs have already turned white.
Title: Re: Plat Spawn
Post by: waterboy on August 27, 2019, 10:43:34 AM
Jungle Fungus Cure tabs that I get at Walmart work pretty good for an anti fungus too.  Use at 1/2 tab per gallon and you don't have to worry about getting it all out when they hatch, it doesn't seem to affect the babies.
Title: Re: Plat Spawn
Post by: wsantia1 on August 27, 2019, 11:02:31 AM
Quote from: waterboy on August 27, 2019, 10:43:34 AM
Jungle Fungus Cure tabs that I get at Walmart work pretty good for an anti fungus too.  Use at 1/2 tab per gallon and you don't have to worry about getting it all out when they hatch, it doesn't seem to affect the babies.

Does the Jungle Fungal Cure (JFC) dissipate? The H2O2 only last 24 hours after that I have to redose and can't use anymore after wiggling begins. If the JFC continues to keep the white eggs from getting fungus that would be great.
Title: Re: Plat Spawn
Post by: wsantia1 on August 27, 2019, 11:08:28 AM
Quote from: wsantia1 on August 27, 2019, 11:02:31 AM
Quote from: waterboy on August 27, 2019, 10:43:34 AM
Jungle Fungus Cure tabs that I get at Walmart work pretty good for an anti fungus too.  Use at 1/2 tab per gallon and you don't have to worry about getting it all out when they hatch, it doesn't seem to affect the babies.

Does the Jungle Fungal Cure (JFC) dissipate? The H2O2 only last 24 hours after that I have to redose and can't use anymore after wiggling begins. If the JFC continues to keep the white eggs from getting fungus that would be great.

I have some Jungle Fungus Clear fizz tabs. Is that the same thing?
Title: Re: Plat Spawn
Post by: Mugwump on August 27, 2019, 11:10:19 AM
Quote from: wsantia1 on August 27, 2019, 11:02:31 AM
Quote from: waterboy on August 27, 2019, 10:43:34 AM
Jungle Fungus Cure tabs that I get at Walmart work pretty good for an anti fungus too.  Use at 1/2 tab per gallon and you don't have to worry about getting it all out when they hatch, it doesn't seem to affect the babies.

Does the Jungle Fungal Cure (JFC) dissipate? The H2O2 only last 24 hours after that I have to redose and can't use anymore after wiggling begins. If the JFC continues to keep the white eggs from getting fungus that would be great.

...I think the peroxide might dissipate faster than that...like 12hrs?
Title: Re: Plat Spawn
Post by: wsantia1 on August 27, 2019, 11:19:40 AM
Quote from: Mugwump on August 27, 2019, 11:10:19 AM
Quote from: wsantia1 on August 27, 2019, 11:02:31 AM
Quote from: waterboy on August 27, 2019, 10:43:34 AM
Jungle Fungus Cure tabs that I get at Walmart work pretty good for an anti fungus too.  Use at 1/2 tab per gallon and you don't have to worry about getting it all out when they hatch, it doesn't seem to affect the babies.

Does the Jungle Fungal Cure (JFC) dissipate? The H2O2 only last 24 hours after that I have to redose and can't use anymore after wiggling begins. If the JFC continues to keep the white eggs from getting fungus that would be great.

...I think the peroxide might dissipate faster than that...like 12hrs?

I thinks you're right. Been a while since I had a spawn. lol
Title: Re: Plat Spawn
Post by: wsantia1 on August 27, 2019, 11:39:44 AM
Quote from: wsantia1 on August 27, 2019, 11:19:40 AM
Quote from: Mugwump on August 27, 2019, 11:10:19 AM
Quote from: wsantia1 on August 27, 2019, 11:02:31 AM
Quote from: waterboy on August 27, 2019, 10:43:34 AM
Jungle Fungus Cure tabs that I get at Walmart work pretty good for an anti fungus too.  Use at 1/2 tab per gallon and you don't have to worry about getting it all out when they hatch, it doesn't seem to affect the babies.

Does the Jungle Fungal Cure (JFC) dissipate? The H2O2 only last 24 hours after that I have to redose and can't use anymore after wiggling begins. If the JFC continues to keep the white eggs from getting fungus that would be great.

...I think the peroxide might dissipate faster than that...like 12hrs?

I thinks you're right. Been a while since I had a spawn. lol
Title: Re: Plat Spawn
Post by: Mugwump on August 27, 2019, 11:58:46 AM
...might be good as an alternate.....I can still get a big bottle of peroxide for .88 cents tho.....always on sale somewhere...Wallgreen's, wally world, yada yada... :)
Title: Re: Plat Spawn
Post by: waterboy on August 27, 2019, 12:06:24 PM
Quote from: wsantia1 on August 27, 2019, 11:08:28 AM
Quote from: wsantia1 on August 27, 2019, 11:02:31 AM
Quote from: waterboy on August 27, 2019, 10:43:34 AM
Jungle Fungus Cure tabs that I get at Walmart work pretty good for an anti fungus too.  Use at 1/2 tab per gallon and you don't have to worry about getting it all out when they hatch, it doesn't seem to affect the babies.

Does the Jungle Fungal Cure (JFC) dissipate? The H2O2 only last 24 hours after that I have to redose and can't use anymore after wiggling begins. If the JFC continues to keep the white eggs from getting fungus that would be great.

I have some Jungle Fungus Clear fizz tabs. Is that the same thing?

Yes that is the same thing. No it doesn't dissipate and it keeps the white eggs from getting fungus. I have left the wigglers in the blue water for a day or two without a problem. I usually put them in a hatching jar after that so they are only in the water with Fungus clear for one or two days.
Title: Re: Plat Spawn
Post by: waterboy on August 27, 2019, 12:09:17 PM
Quote from: Mugwump on August 27, 2019, 11:10:19 AM
Quote from: wsantia1 on August 27, 2019, 11:02:31 AM
Quote from: waterboy on August 27, 2019, 10:43:34 AM
Jungle Fungus Cure tabs that I get at Walmart work pretty good for an anti fungus too.  Use at 1/2 tab per gallon and you don't have to worry about getting it all out when they hatch, it doesn't seem to affect the babies.

Does the Jungle Fungal Cure (JFC) dissipate? The H2O2 only last 24 hours after that I have to redose and can't use anymore after wiggling begins. If the JFC continues to keep the white eggs from getting fungus that would be great.

...I think the peroxide might dissipate faster than that...like 12hrs?

Does anyone know for sure how long it takes the H2O2 to dissipate? I have heard to use a capfull every 12 hours for anti fungus but never tried it myself.
Title: Re: Plat Spawn
Post by: wsantia1 on August 27, 2019, 12:20:07 PM
Quote from: waterboy on August 27, 2019, 12:09:17 PM
Quote from: Mugwump on August 27, 2019, 11:10:19 AM
Quote from: wsantia1 on August 27, 2019, 11:02:31 AM
Quote from: waterboy on August 27, 2019, 10:43:34 AM
Jungle Fungus Cure tabs that I get at Walmart work pretty good for an anti fungus too.  Use at 1/2 tab per gallon and you don't have to worry about getting it all out when they hatch, it doesn't seem to affect the babies.

Does the Jungle Fungal Cure (JFC) dissipate? The H2O2 only last 24 hours after that I have to redose and can't use anymore after wiggling begins. If the JFC continues to keep the white eggs from getting fungus that would be great.

...I think the peroxide might dissipate faster than that...like 12hrs?

Does anyone know for sure how long it takes the H2O2 to dissipate? I have heard to use a capfull every 12 hours for anti fungus but never tried it myself.

Yep Like Jon said every 12 hours.
Title: Re: Plat Spawn
Post by: Mugwump on August 27, 2019, 12:25:52 PM
..yup...12hrs.....I use plain untreated tap to start with a cap full of peroxide/gallon....treat twice more before stopping just before wigglers....
Title: Re: Plat Spawn
Post by: wsantia1 on August 28, 2019, 06:29:31 AM
This spawn has basically fizzed out. There are probably on 30 or so eggs that didn't turn white. It's a very young inexperienced pair.

I also had a customer who bought his little son with him and the male was more distracted and in a guarding position than taking care of his business.

I wait and see if the remaining eggs turn into wigglers. It will get real messy from there trying to seperate the white eggs from the wigglers without wiping them out. huh
Title: Re: Plat Spawn
Post by: wsantia1 on August 29, 2019, 01:33:15 PM
Quote from: wsantia1 on August 28, 2019, 06:29:31 AM
This spawn has basically fizzed out. There are probably on 30 or so eggs that didn't turn white. It's a very young inexperienced pair.

I also had a customer who bought his little son with him and the male was more distracted and in a guarding position than taking care of his business.

I wait and see if the remaining eggs turn into wigglers. It will get real messy from there trying to seperate the white eggs from the wigglers without wiping them out. huh

Well I do have some wigglers. Now to figure out how to separate them from the white eggs. I won't be too disappointed if I lose them because I know for sure that they are a pair. They are getting a nice dose of frozen food now since I'm trying to fatten them up for their next spawn.,
Title: Re: Plat Spawn
Post by: wsantia1 on August 30, 2019, 06:31:48 AM
I looked in on this spawn and all of the wigglers have detached from the slate and are on the bottom  of the tank and the unfertilized eggs (white) are still on the slate.

I have never had wigglers detach from the slate on the first day of wiggling. I dropped a 1/4 tab of the Jungle Fungus Clear in the tank last night so I wonder if that caused the separation.  huh

Anyhow that solves the problem I was going to have in removing the unfertilized eggs from the slate. Hopefully these wigglers are ok. huh
Title: Re: Plat Spawn
Post by: Mugwump on August 30, 2019, 06:45:03 AM
Quote from: wsantia1 on August 30, 2019, 06:31:48 AM
I looked in on this spawn and all of the wigglers have detached from the slate and are on the bottom  of the tank and the unfertilized eggs (white) are still on the slate.

I have never had wigglers detach from the slate on the first day of wiggling. I dropped a 1/4 tab of the Jungle Fungus Clear in the tank last night so I wonder if that caused the separation.  huh

Anyhow that solves the problem I was going to have in removing the unfertilized eggs from the slate. Hopefully these wigglers are ok. huh

..yes, I put my slates, etc. face down...the wigglers form 'da vines' and many just wiggle off to the bottom .....couldn't grab the vine on the way down I guess... :)

..good luck!
Title: Re: Plat Spawn
Post by: wsantia1 on October 03, 2019, 06:15:41 AM
Once again I pulled a spawn from my young plat pair and once again it it has a low fertility rate.

It wasn't worth my time going through with the last spawn that I pulled and the second spawn that they had they ate before I got a chance to pull.

We'll see how may of this spawn turn into wigglers but I'm starting to lose patience with these two.
Title: Re: Plat Spawn
Post by: Mugwump on October 03, 2019, 06:33:05 AM
Quote from: wsantia1 on October 03, 2019, 06:15:41 AM
Once again I pulled a spawn from my young plat pair and once again it it has a low fertility rate.

It wasn't worth my time going through with the last spawn that I pulled and the second spawn that they had they ate before I got a chance to pull.

We'll see how may of this spawn turn into wigglers but I'm starting to lose patience with these two.

...I know that feeling..... wfwf
Title: Re: Plat Spawn
Post by: wsantia1 on October 04, 2019, 05:27:05 PM
It looks like I have about 60 wigglers. Maybe a few more. Now to separate the white eggs. huh
Title: Re: Plat Spawn
Post by: wsantia1 on October 15, 2019, 05:30:27 PM
This time I have 2 pairs that spawned. One is a new pair and the other is the same old pair that is not fertilizing most of the eggs. We shall see. I'm not pulling anything just yet.
Title: Re: Plat Spawn
Post by: Mugwump on October 15, 2019, 05:52:44 PM
Quote from: wsantia1 on October 15, 2019, 05:30:27 PM
This time I have 2 pairs that spawned. One is a new pair and the other is the same old pair that is not fertilizing most of the eggs. We shall see. I'm not pulling anything just yet.

...good luck !  :)
Title: Re: Plat Spawn
Post by: wsantia1 on October 16, 2019, 06:08:48 AM
The male in the first pair is a total bust. He always only manages to fertilize a few eggs. The female is very attentive to her "white eggs". I still have to check on the new pair's spawn.