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Title: Winter solstice coffee..
Post by: Mugwump on December 21, 2015, 05:35:39 AM
...what a great cup of coffee on a dark, and rainy, Monday... |^|..it'll be in the 40' today...

..some water changes and putz'n early, then a couple quick errands...

I've been hoping for a 'white christmas', but it just doesn't look like that will happen this year.....bummer..
Title: Re: Winter solstice coffee..
Post by: wsantia1 on December 21, 2015, 05:49:10 AM
A great cup of coffee here this morning. On my second cup and the dog is still asleep. lol May finish the pot before he wakes up. I'll let him sleep since he spends half the night watching over me while I sleep. w!w

It's going up to the mid 50s today but it will be cloudy. It is going up to 74 on Christmas eve. That's fine but they are also predicting showers. I rather it was a little colder with no rain. I don't even mind the snow as long as it's all melted away by January 2. w!w

Well second pot will be on soon. I've got lots to do today including WCs that I haven't done on schedule. I'm still good if I do them today. huh
Title: Re: Winter solstice coffee..
Post by: Mugwump on December 21, 2015, 06:01:28 AM
I hear ya, Willie...those nice temps are worthless if you can't get out and enjoy them... huh
Title: Re: Winter solstice coffee..
Post by: wsantia1 on December 21, 2015, 10:06:24 AM
Water changes done. I will now walk kobe then come back and tidy up the fish room a bit. Saw my L183s today (they've been hiding) and they are still looking good. huh

Dropped a cave in that tank to hopefully coax them out in the open again. They like to hand out by the sponges and heater. Temp in that tank is 78 degrees.
Title: Re: Winter solstice coffee..
Post by: LizStreithorst on December 21, 2015, 10:22:33 AM
Saint's puppy's at the vet hospital;.  Surgery scheduled for noon today.  Bought a new phone.  The electrition is on his way.
Title: Re: Winter solstice coffee..
Post by: Mugwump on December 21, 2015, 11:43:55 AM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on December 21, 2015, 10:22:33 AM
Saint's puppy's at the vet hospital;.  Surgery scheduled for noon today.  Bought a new phone.  The electrition is on his way.

..here's wishing St. Pup a quick recovery, your new phone a winner...and for a short easy job for the electrician....

What kind of phone?....Jan and I, have the Samsung Galaxy S5's and love em...
Title: Re: Winter solstice coffee..
Post by: LizStreithorst on December 21, 2015, 12:22:57 PM
I had a smart phone once and I hated it.  It was a Galaxy 5.  My new one is a LG flip top.  The one I washed was a Samsung fliptop.  I lost all my phone numbers.  I guess is they love me, they'll call me back.

I called the place I bought the generator from.  I am so embarrassed.  The gentleman told for me to look for it either taped to the battery or wedged between the muffler and the gas tank.  It was wedged between the muffler and gas tank :-[  I can't crank it up yet though.  The owners manual says I need to get a copper grounding rod.  Otherwise I might electrocute myself :o
Title: Re: Winter solstice coffee..
Post by: Mugwump on December 21, 2015, 12:29:40 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on December 21, 2015, 12:22:57 PM
I had a smart phone once and I hated it.  It was a Galaxy 5.  My new one is a LG flip top.  The one I washed was a Samsung fliptop.  I lost all my phone numbers.  I guess is they love me, they'll call me back.

I called the place I bought the generator from.  I am so embarrassed.  The gentleman told for me to look for it either taped to the battery or wedged between the muffler and the gas tank.  It was wedged between the muffler and gas tank :-[  I can't crank it up yet though.  The owners manual says I need to get a copper grounding rod.  Otherwise I might electrocute myself :o

Grounding rods are cheap at a hardware store....but...ask the electrician about it......you may be able to ground to a cold water pipe too....plus he'll have the heavier gauge wire too........if you're connecting the generator through your panel, there's a hierarchy as to where it's tied into the ground there...
Title: Re: Winter solstice coffee..
Post by: LizStreithorst on December 21, 2015, 12:34:50 PM
Thanks, Mug.  I'm still waiting for him.  I will ask.  I may even have the electrician do the wiring into the box.  I think my carpenter can do it but I won't know if he's willing until I talk to him.
Title: Re: Winter solstice coffee..
Post by: LizStreithorst on December 21, 2015, 02:09:26 PM
Well, well, well...there is nothing wrong with my electricity.  I got a bum dryer!
Title: Re: Winter solstice coffee..
Post by: Mugwump on December 21, 2015, 04:19:50 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on December 21, 2015, 02:09:26 PM
Well, well, well...there is nothing wrong with my electricity.  I got a bum dryer!

Wow, no kidding?...well they should pick it up and drop off another quick for ya then...LOL...I'll bet that you've rang their bell already tho, huh?..
Title: Re: Winter solstice coffee..
Post by: BallAquatics on December 21, 2015, 04:23:42 PM
Are they picking up the service call charge for the electrician?   huh

Dennis
Title: Re: Winter solstice coffee..
Post by: Mugwump on December 21, 2015, 04:53:13 PM
Quote from: BallAquatics on December 21, 2015, 04:23:42 PM
Are they picking up the service call charge for the electrician?   huh

Dennis

..good point, Dennis....altho she was asking him about other things too...
Title: Re: Winter solstice coffee..
Post by: LizStreithorst on December 21, 2015, 06:22:41 PM
The electrician blew me away.  He refused to take money for the service call.  He absolutely refused!  How's that for small town ways?

Now, I have an important question...The electrician tested everything.  He put the volt meter on the breaker in the breaker box.  It was fine.  He put the meter on the 220 outlet.  It was fine.  He took the piece of the back where the cord was attached and tested it there.  It was fine!!!!!!

Yet, when the dryer guys replaced the drier he said that my cord was bad.  They said they when they used my cord it didn't work and when they replaced mine with the cord in the truck it worked.  I didn't watch this time, damn it >:( 

How can it be that the electricity was able to get from the power line to, the breaker box, to the outlet, to the hook-up's on the dryer, and be the fault of the cord?  Am I getting old and stupid or is someone being dishonest?
Title: Re: Winter solstice coffee..
Post by: Mugwump on December 21, 2015, 06:35:20 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on December 21, 2015, 06:22:41 PM
The electrician blew me away.  He refused to take money for the service call.  He absolutely refused!  How's that for small town ways?

Now, I have an important question...The electrician tested everything.  He put the volt meter on the breaker in the breaker box.  It was fine.  He put the meter on the 220 outlet.  It was fine.  He took the piece of the back where the cord was attached and tested it there.  It was fine!!!!!!

Yet, when the dryer guys replaced the drier he said that my cord was bad.  They said they when they used my cord it didn't work and when they replaced mine with the cord in the truck it worked.  I didn't watch this time, damn it >:( 

How can it be that the electricity was able to get from the power line to, the breaker box, to the outlet, to the hook-up's on the dryer, and be the fault of the cord?  Am I getting old and stupid or is someone being dishonest?

...does your dryer plug into an extension cord to the outlet?......and if their cord??..worked...why didn't they leave it?....when they deliver they're supposed to set it up running correctly, etc...
Title: Re: Winter solstice coffee..
Post by: LizStreithorst on December 21, 2015, 06:55:53 PM
My cord goes straight from the dryer screw-ins to the outlet. 

I asked why they didn't leave the old one.  He said that this one was already in and they'd take the old one back to the store and sell it.  It was no longer in the box but he said it didn't matter. 

The more I think about this the more I believe that there is dishonesty and theft afoot behind my store's back.  I won't go accusing until I know for sure.  What do y'all think?  I'll call my electrician tomorrow and get the expert's opinion if you think I'm right.  If y'all and Mr. Brady think that something ain't right in Denmark I can take it from there.  I won't let this slide if I'm right.  The two things I most despise are a liar and a thief.  It's one of my quirks huh
Title: Re: Winter solstice coffee..
Post by: Mugwump on December 21, 2015, 06:59:01 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on December 21, 2015, 06:55:53 PM
My cord goes straight from the dryer screw-ins to the outlet. 

I asked why they didn't leave the old one.  He said that this one was already in and they'd take the old one back to the store and sell it.  It was no longer in the box but he said it didn't matter. 

The more I think about this the more I believe that there is dishonesty and theft afoot behind my store's back.  I won't go accusing until I know for sure.  What do y'all think?  I'll call my electrician tomorrow and get the expert's opinion if you think I'm right.  If y'all and Mr. Brady think that something ain't right in Denmark I can take it from there.  I won't let this slide if I'm right.  The two things I most despise are a liar and a thief.  It's one of my quirks huh

...just call the store and tell them to bring a dryer that works.....
Title: Re: Winter solstice coffee..
Post by: LizStreithorst on December 21, 2015, 07:01:31 PM
The one they brought works.
Title: Re: Winter solstice coffee..
Post by: BallAquatics on December 21, 2015, 07:06:29 PM
If the electrician took the back off the dryer and checked where the power comes into the unit and it was fine, then the cord could not have been bad.  That was what he was checking when he took that measurement.

If all is working, what's the issue?  I must be missing something here.

Dennis
Title: Re: Winter solstice coffee..
Post by: Mugwump on December 21, 2015, 07:08:08 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on December 21, 2015, 07:01:31 PM
The one they brought works.


huh....then I'm confused too.....bad cord????
Title: Re: Winter solstice coffee..
Post by: LizStreithorst on December 21, 2015, 07:22:12 PM
The problem is that the electrician checked the power from the outlet through the cord the back of the dryer and there was electricity to it yet the installing guy said the cord was bad.  This is impossible!  I have examined the "bad" cord and it appears perfect.  I guess what I need to do to find out for sure  is to replace the new cord with the old cord and plug it in.

The issue here is that I have a feeling that someone is stealing from my small town local business.  I will tell.  I don't like doing this kind of thing but when there is dishonesty involved I kinda can't let it slide huh
Title: Re: Winter solstice coffee..
Post by: Mugwump on December 21, 2015, 07:32:33 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on December 21, 2015, 07:22:12 PM
The problem is that the electrician checked the power from the outlet through the cord the back of the dryer and there was electricity to it yet the installing guy said the cord was bad.  This is impossible!  I have examined the "bad" cord and it appears perfect.  I guess what I need to do to find out for sure  is to replace the new cord with the old cord and plug it in.

The issue here is that I have a feeling that someone is stealing from my small town local business.  I will tell.  I don't like doing this kind of thing but when there is dishonesty involved I kinda can't let it slide huh

.if the cord there now is good, and it won't run...then the machine is bad....if it runs now.....what's the issue??...a swapped cord??..............are you drying clothes with it now?.....yes/no...

I understand the thing about them saying that they swapped a cord when they didn't.....new machines come with cords on them...nothing to swap...
Title: Re: Winter solstice coffee..
Post by: BillT on December 21, 2015, 08:45:53 PM
I find this interesting. Many possibilities.

It could be that:

1) The install guy could have damaged the cord when taking out the dryer and only noticed the damage later (a not too smart option), (could be something like a tab on the end of the cord getting pulled off).

2) The install guy might not understand electricity very well (another stupid guy hypothesis).

3) There could be mis-communication between any two of the people involved (you, electrician, install guy).

4) There might be some kind of twisted economic incentive for the store or the employee to say it is the opposite of what it was.

I put the most trust in the electrician. He's probably the most knowledgeable, tested everything, and has no  personal gain incentive.
Title: Re: Winter solstice coffee..
Post by: LizStreithorst on December 22, 2015, 03:28:15 PM
I've thought about it some and decided that it was a case of stupidity.  The store wouldn't screw me just for the price of a cord.  I'm a good customer.  I went to the hardware store this afternoon for a couple of 24" fluorescent tubes for my overhead kitchen light.  I talked to the guy who is either a manager or assistant manager.  He was the one I talked to after the electrician was here.  After I called and told him that the electrician said that it was the dryer he called the electrician and talked to him.  The electrician told him that he tested that power was getting to the dryer.  At any rate, I've decided that nothing untoward was going on.  Stupidity is not untoward.

I'm having second thoughts about the installation guy, though.  He asked me about my old tractor and when I told him that it was broken he said that he could fix it for me.  He said that he was really trained as a diesel mechanic but his job at the hardware store pay's well and he couldn't get a good paying job as a diesel mechanic within driving distance.  I was all hot for him to to it on the weekends.  Now, I'll think on it a but longer before I let him put his hands on it.  He sure did like my old tractor.  He asked it he could examine it after he finished with the dryer.  I'm not sure if I trust him.  I'll talk to him again and decide.