Hey Dennis, I noted that the Ohio club beat out Minn. this year.....good things happening ;D
Here are the results for the 2013 ACA Breeder of the Year!!!
Individual rankings:
RANK NAME Sp. # LOCAL CLUB 1st Place Toromanovic, Mario 35 GCCA 2nd Place Libasci, Jason 31 GCCA 3rd Place Cunningham, Josh 25 Ohio Cichlid Association 4th Place Ball, Rick 21 Minnesota Aquarium Society 5th Place Helford, Mike 19 GCCA 6th Place Cady, Adam 18 Minnesota Aquarium Society 7th Place Keys, Christine 17 Capital Area Cichlid Association 8th Place Koch, Cory 16 Missouri Aquarium Society 8th Place Poth, Tony 16 Ohio Cichlid Association 9th Place Randall, Bob 15 Minnesota Aquarium Society 10th Place Craig, Tim 14 Ohio Cichlid Association 10th Place Skwarczek Jr, Matthew 14 GCCA
And in Club rankings, Dethroning the long time reigning champion Minnesota Aquarium Society, we have.....
THE OHIO CICHLID ASSOCIATION!!!!!!
RANK NAME Sp. # 1st Place Ohio Cichlid Association 200 2nd Place GCCA 170 3rd Place Minnesota Aquarium Society 108 4th Place Missouri Aquarium Society 68 5th Place Greater Pittsburgh Aquarium Society Inc 37 6th Place Capital Area Cichlid Association 34 6th Place Greater Cincinnati Aquarium Society 34 7th Place Greater Seattle Aquarium Society 32 7th Place Milwaukee Aquarium Society 32 8th Place Danbury Area Aquarium Socety 28 9th Place Heart of America Aquarium Society of Kansas City 26 10th Place Durham Region Aquarium Society 24 11th Place Madison Area Aquatic Hobbyists 19
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Congrats, but I actually judged Discus at an ACA once when the guy who was suppose to judge decided at the last minute not to go. The judging at ACA sucks. They have no Standards. There were three judges. One of them hated Discus. One of them asked me questions about the fish I'd chosen as best. I didn't fight for my fish like you're supposed to, but I answered his questions well. I did a good enough job. The Discus went Best.
I hated having to judge. I know that I could do it. I have a habit of picking the best. Judging is too great a weight on my shoulders. I don't have the right temperament. I'll stick with judging my own fish.
Quote from: LizStreithorst on July 10, 2014, 07:07:10 PM
Congrats, but I actually judged Discus at an ACA once when the guy who was suppose to judge decided at the last minute not to go. The judging at ACA sucks. They have no Standards. There were three judges. One of them hated Discus. One of them asked me questions about the fish I'd chosen as best. I didn't fight for my fish like you're supposed to, but I answered his questions well. I did a good enough job. The Discus went Best.
I hated having to judge. I know that I could do it. I have a habit of picking the best. Judging is too great a weight on my shoulders. I don't have the right temperament. I'll stick with judging my own fish.
These are breeder's awards Liz, not ACA show awards...and just because you met one questionable ACA judge, doesn't mean that they're all bad....I know most ACA judges can evaluate
any fish..not just an angel, or a discus. How many discus freak judges can you say are that versatile?....
You're right. We Discus folks are specialists. I'm considered second class by some of them because I got involved with Angels!
This is a fact that everyone in Discus knows...ACA is prejudiced against Discus. Our fish need a 20 gallon tank with a heater. They think that we're sissies when what we want to give our fish what t hey need.
It would glorious if a NADA show could be with an ACA show. It would be good for both organisations good. I can't see it happening for many years.
Quote from: LizStreithorst on July 10, 2014, 08:39:03 PM
You're right. We Discus folks are specialists. I'm considered second class by some of them because I got involved with Angels!
This is a fact that everyone in Discus knows...ACA is prejudiced against Discus. Our fish need a 20 gallon tank with a heater. They think that we're sissies when what we want to give our fish what t hey need.
It would glorious if a NADA show could be with an ACA show. It would be good for both organisations good. I can't see it happening for many years.
Agreed. I find it odd too that those discus breeders that do raise other fish, select angels....that's interesting too. Some at the GCCA turn their noses up at both Angels, and Discus....LOL....Africans rule their world....
Quote from: Mugwump on July 10, 2014, 08:47:16 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on July 10, 2014, 08:39:03 PM
You're right. We Discus folks are specialists. I'm considered second class by some of them because I got involved with Angels!
This is a fact that everyone in Discus knows...ACA is prejudiced against Discus. Our fish need a 20 gallon tank with a heater. They think that we're sissies when what we want to give our fish what t hey need.
It would glorious if a NADA show could be with an ACA show. It would be good for both organisations good. I can't see it happening for many years.
Agreed. I find it odd too that those discus breeders that do raise other fish, select angels....that's interesting too. Some at the GCCA turn their noses up at both Angels, and Discus....LOL....Africans rule their world....
I found that to be the case here too. When I went to the Capital Cichlid Ass. (CCA) meeting a couple of weeks ago they featured mostly Africans. No Discus and the only Angels worth anything according to some were the Silvers. ???
Same here.....
If you really want to the Black sheep, go to the ACA convention and tell them you keep Danios! I did that in Cincinnati back at the 2009 convention and Frank Reece was so impressed that he had me on the Blue Zoo..... LOL
I can't claim to be the only open minded fish keeper there though. Both Mark Denaro and Mike Drawdy were selling Danios in the vendor room. ;D ;D ;D
Dennis