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Misc Topics... yada yada => Baseball => Topic started by: BallAquatics on September 13, 2015, 09:27:58 AM

Title: 30 years ago.....
Post by: BallAquatics on September 13, 2015, 09:27:58 AM
https://youtu.be/Kwh4i_cPwiA

Dennis
Title: Re: 30 years ago.....
Post by: Mugwump on September 13, 2015, 03:57:07 PM
One thing about Pete.....he could sure play the game of baseball.......he belongs in the 'Hall'......
Title: Re: 30 years ago.....
Post by: BillT on September 13, 2015, 04:59:15 PM
I would agree with that.
Betting on your own team to win should not be  problem.
Title: Re: 30 years ago.....
Post by: ghonk on September 14, 2015, 02:09:11 AM
Quote from: Mugwump on September 13, 2015, 03:57:07 PM
One thing about Pete.....he could sure play the game of baseball.......he belongs in the 'Hall'......

He sealed his fate when he bet on the game,he should never be allowed in  the HOF.
To bad since he was a great player,  like many of the steroid cheaters.


Title: Re: 30 years ago.....
Post by: Mugwump on September 14, 2015, 06:34:50 AM
Quote from: ghonk on September 14, 2015, 02:09:11 AM
Quote from: Mugwump on September 13, 2015, 03:57:07 PM
One thing about Pete.....he could sure play the game of baseball.......he belongs in the 'Hall'......

He sealed his fate when he bet on the game,he should never be allowed in  the HOF.
To bad since he was a great player,  like many of the steroid cheaters.

He should be in for his player career and stats......his addiction is something different...
Title: Re: 30 years ago.....
Post by: BallAquatics on September 14, 2015, 10:33:13 AM
Yep, it's certainly NOT like all the others in the Hall are without their sins.

I must say that growing up durning the years of the Big Red Machine, Pete was least favorite on the team.  He always comes off as an arogant sob, but if that wan't his personality, he probably wouldn't hold the record either.  I don't think Pete is a bad person.  He is just very competative, and bit too agressive for my tastes.

Dennis
Title: Re: 30 years ago.....
Post by: ghonk on September 14, 2015, 12:03:10 PM
Quote from: BillT on September 13, 2015, 04:59:15 PM
I would agree with that.
Betting on your own team to win should not be  problem.

Seems like i heard something recently about him not always betting on them to win,but that might not be true or hasn't been proven.
Would that make a difference to you,or would you say put him it anyway.
Title: Re: 30 years ago.....
Post by: BillT on September 14, 2015, 12:10:21 PM
To me betting on your own team would only induce you to do what you are supposed to do, try to win games. So no conflict.
If he was betting on his team to lose, that would be a clear conflict. Not good.

If he was betting on other teams, more fuzzy. in some cases it could be a conflict, in others perhaps not. however, it would be a more understandable reason for some kind of exclusion.
Title: Re: 30 years ago.....
Post by: ghonk on September 14, 2015, 12:27:45 PM
Quote from: Mugwump on September 14, 2015, 06:34:50 AM
Quote from: ghonk on September 14, 2015, 02:09:11 AM
Quote from: Mugwump on September 13, 2015, 03:57:07 PM
One thing about Pete.....he could sure play the game of baseball.......he belongs in the 'Hall'......

He sealed his fate when he bet on the game,he should never be allowed in  the HOF.
To bad since he was a great player,  like many of the steroid cheaters.

He should be in for his player career and stats......his addiction is something different...

Maybe he had an addiction,or maybe he just liked betting. 
Like tiger was addicted to sex,yeah yeah thats it i couldn't help myself.
I can't remember,was some of the betting going on when he was still a player,or did the uncontrolable addiction only pop up once he retired.
Title: Re: 30 years ago.....
Post by: wsantia1 on September 14, 2015, 12:59:14 PM
Quote from: ghonk on September 14, 2015, 12:27:45 PM
Quote from: Mugwump on September 14, 2015, 06:34:50 AM
Quote from: ghonk on September 14, 2015, 02:09:11 AM
Quote from: Mugwump on September 13, 2015, 03:57:07 PM
One thing about Pete.....he could sure play the game of baseball.......he belongs in the 'Hall'......

He sealed his fate when he bet on the game,he should never be allowed in  the HOF.
To bad since he was a great player,  like many of the steroid cheaters.

He should be in for his player career and stats......his addiction is something different...

Maybe he had an addiction,or maybe he just liked betting. 
Like tiger was addicted to sex,yeah yeah thats it i couldn't help myself.
I can't remember,was some of the betting going on when he was still a player,or did the uncontrolable addiction only pop up once he retired.

A recent report had him betting while he was a player. The commissioner has that report now. I wonder what bearing that will have on his decision.
Title: Re: 30 years ago.....
Post by: ilroost on September 17, 2015, 05:42:07 PM
I believe he will be in the hall someday. Maybe not until he passes but still in.
Title: Re: 30 years ago.....
Post by: ghonk on September 17, 2015, 06:23:18 PM
Quote from: ilroost on September 17, 2015, 05:42:07 PM
I believe he will be in the hall someday. Maybe not until he passes but still in.

You mean the Ron Santo rule.
Title: Re: 30 years ago.....
Post by: Mugwump on September 17, 2015, 06:28:04 PM
Quote from: ghonk on September 17, 2015, 06:23:18 PM
Quote from: ilroost on September 17, 2015, 05:42:07 PM
I believe he will be in the hall someday. Maybe not until he passes but still in.

You mean the Ron Santo rule.

...and there was no reason for his denial to the hof over the years except a few a$$hole sports writers that didn't like him personally.....jerks