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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: LizStreithorst on August 17, 2016, 03:33:53 PM

Title: Lawn mowers
Post by: LizStreithorst on August 17, 2016, 03:33:53 PM
I went in to bitch at the lawn mower fix it people.  Thank God I was polite and didn't go in ranting and raving.  The guy looked up the work order and said that it wasn't fixed because it wasn't worth fixing.  He said that the engine got little compression.  I never ran it out of oil but that's what he said.  He said that it would cost $2,500 to fix which I know is a crock but that's what he said.

This is my second Dr. Trimmer.  The first one was a work horse.  God knows how many years I had it and worked it hard.  This second one hasn't been that great. 

After reading around some I discovered that may people had the same opinion...The old ones were great, the newer ones were over priced and not great.  So I went looking around for reviews of walk behind string trimmers.  They say that the Fields Edge M222 is the best one.  I can get it pretty cheap with free 3 day shipping from Amazon.  https://www.amazon.com/M220-String-Mower-173cc-Engine/dp/B00URO061M?tag=backyardboss-20The DR like the one I had twice cost $600. plus shipping!

Has anyone ever heard of Viper engines?  I never have.  I'm open to other suggestions on good string trimmers if anyone has one.
Title: Re: Lawn mowers
Post by: Mugwump on August 17, 2016, 04:15:19 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on August 17, 2016, 03:33:53 PM
I went in to bitch at the lawn mower fix it people.  Thank God I was polite and didn't go in ranting and raving.  The guy looked up the work order and said that it wasn't fixed because it wasn't worth fixing.  He said that the engine got little compression.  I never ran it out of oil but that's what he said.  He said that it would cost $2,500 to fix which I know is a crock but that's what he said.

This is my second Dr. Trimmer.  The first one was a work horse.  God knows how many years I had it and worked it hard.  This second one hasn't been that great. 

After reading around some I discovered that may people had the same opinion...The old ones were great, the newer ones were over priced and not great.  So I went looking around for reviews of walk behind string trimmers.  They say that the Fields Edge M222 is the best one.  I can get it pretty cheap with free 3 day shipping from Amazon.  https://www.amazon.com/M220-String-Mower-173cc-Engine/dp/B00URO061M?tag=backyardboss-20The DR like the one I had twice cost $600. plus shipping!

Has anyone ever heard of Viper engines?  I never have.  I'm open to other suggestions on good string trimmers if anyone has one.

https://www.amazon.com/M220-String-Mower-173cc-Engine/dp/B00URO061M (https://www.amazon.com/M220-String-Mower-173cc-Engine/dp/B00URO061M)

https://www.amazon.com/Earthquake-600050V-Walk-Behind-Rolling-Trimmer/product-reviews/B004473WJG (https://www.amazon.com/Earthquake-600050V-Walk-Behind-Rolling-Trimmer/product-reviews/B004473WJG)

Title: Re: Lawn mowers
Post by: LizStreithorst on August 17, 2016, 06:42:08 PM
Engine is made in China.  On well...sometimes Chinese made stuff is wonderful and sometimes it's nothing but a problem from the get go.  It's the luck of the draw.  I won't buy another DR.  I was this one wasn't the machine that my first one was.

An interesting aside...I noticed that my water pressure had dropped.  I saw it first from the pressure gauge on my RO unit.  I changed the filters.  No change.  I looked everywhere to see if  water was running or a pipe was broken and everything was fine.  So I drove up the road across from where my good neighbor's worthless grandson lives where the water meter is.  I was checking the meter to see if it was spinning which it was not, when the grandson came over.  I had the DR in the back of Charlotte and I told him the story.   He pulled on the cord and said, "hell yes there's compression".  I thought that the cord would pull without resistance if there was little compression but I know that I know nothing.  The guy is an auto mechanic and can test the compression.  I have the mower to him because I decided to take a gamble and buy the one with the motor made in China.  Perhaps the low life will return the favor one day but I won't hold my breath.

End of rant.

Title: Re: Lawn mowers
Post by: Rjb3 on August 17, 2016, 10:22:32 PM
How could it cost $2500 to fix? On Dr.'s web site I saw a new electric start model for $1099 list, on sale for $899 w/free shipping. And, like you said, the M220 on Amazon is $417.09 w/free shipping.
Title: Re: Lawn mowers
Post by: LizStreithorst on August 18, 2016, 07:06:44 AM
I knew that he was handing me a line of bull of the $2500.  I'll be interested in finding out if he was lying to me about the compression, too.
Title: Re: Lawn mowers
Post by: BallAquatics on August 18, 2016, 08:05:02 AM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on August 18, 2016, 07:06:44 AM
I'll be interested in finding out if he was lying to me about the compression, too.

It's the compression that makes the starter rope hard to pull.  If it had little compression it would pull easy and continue to spin longer than normal.  Sounds like a rip-off joint to me.  First they bill for work never done and then lie about the condition of your equipment as an excuse.  Neither you or I run our business' like that.

Dennis
Title: Re: Lawn mowers
Post by: Mugwump on August 18, 2016, 08:20:16 AM
Quote from: BallAquatics on August 18, 2016, 08:05:02 AM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on August 18, 2016, 07:06:44 AM
I'll be interested in finding out if he was lying to me about the compression, too.

It's the compression that makes the starter rope hard to pull.  If it had little compression it would pull easy and continue to spin longer than normal.  Sounds like a rip-off joint to me.  First they bill for work never done and then lie about the condition of your equipment as an excuse.  Neither you or I run our business' like that.

Dennis


....or they're just plain lazy, and incompetent... |^|
Title: Re: Lawn mowers
Post by: wallace on August 18, 2016, 10:27:06 AM
Or both maybe... huh I took my chain saw to the small engine guy around here last year. After it sat there for months I went by the place to pick it up. He said it runs fine. I thought, gee were you ever going to call? Got it home and can't start it the next time I need it. I think if he can start one of these #@^#$(& engines using his tricks of the trade then he thinks its good to go.

So I start to take it apart and it has a hole in the fuel line. Got a $3 part and fixed it myself.
Title: Re: Lawn mowers
Post by: LizStreithorst on August 18, 2016, 03:28:14 PM
 ::)

I'd have tried to fix my DR but I couldn't find where the fuel filter and gas line were.  I could have tried harder but I figured it would be easier to take it to the shop than try to mess with something I know almost nothing about.

I'll find out the truth when I see the low life down the road.  If he said the compression is good, I'll have him load it in Charlotte.  I'll take it back to Ellisville Auto, crank it for them, and demand my piddly $25. back.

Sometimes this happens to women.  It doesn't happen to me often but it has happened to me before.  My ace in the hole is that I have a vindictive streak that surfaces when I'm done wrong.  I'll trash their name all over town.  I have a reputation of doing a good job and being a square dealer. 

I hope the DR's new owner finds out that compression was indeed too low to make it worth fixing.  Being out for revenge takes a lot out of me.  I'd rather not have to put myself through it.
Title: Re: Lawn mowers
Post by: LizStreithorst on August 22, 2016, 01:59:59 PM
Got my new mower today.  It is fine as wine.  Cranked on the first pull and mowed grass and wire weed high and tough enough to make a blade mower die.  I got the front and side yard mowed but the heat index is 110 so I quit after that.  Mr Sharp watched me take it out of the box and put it together.  He wanted to try it out.  He loves it too.  He's gonna buy one for himself.

The compression was fine on the old mower.  It new owner got it running and all cleaned up and shiny.  There is still something wrong with it.  It runs like a charm for a while and then conks out.  That's what pissed me off about it last year.  It will not re-start until it cools down completely which is a huge pain when you're planning on the big mow.  I'm sure he will get it all fixed up and then sell it.  The guy is pretty worthless.  He doesn't want to work.  He used to work.  He had a good paying job.   But he turned worthless.  His wife, a very nice lady, left him.  She got tired of supporting both of them.  He actually took a sledge hammer to his water meter and by-passed it so he could get free water.  Imagine that?  Our water here is cheap as dirt!  His grand father, a wonderful man, told me all about the cops showing up with the water company and him being shown what his rotten grandson had done.  The guy has hooked up to his grand father's back up wind mill powered water well for water.  The grand father said that the low life goes over to his house and complains about not having money to pay his bills.  We both know that he steals, too.  Heck, he lives in a house he got for free.  His land was given to him as well.  He's young and strong.  I'm old and I do for myself.  I hate it that my closet neighbor is pure trash.
Title: Re: Lawn mowers
Post by: wallace on August 22, 2016, 03:06:23 PM
A low-life can be clever in his thievery. We had a rental house one time and the worthless guy next door dug a shallow little trench across the side yard and ran an electrical cable up the wall and hooked into one of the panel circuits. He was getting free electricity. I couldn't believe it. Then I look around and find that he has also spliced into the TV cable for some free entertainment as well!

I called the sheriff and he thought it was pretty funny too. He said the guy is back in jail already anyway. He was just between jail terms.
Title: Re: Lawn mowers
Post by: LizStreithorst on August 22, 2016, 03:38:57 PM
This guys grand father and I both want the low life to go to jail.  It's up to the water department whether they will press charges.  They need to.  That kind of thing is unacceptable >:(

The grand father, my wonderful neighbor, Jack, told me about how he laid out some lumber and other stuff to use later (no tools, thank God) and it disappeared.  I told him about my extension ladder disappearing.  He remembered where it was.  He said  that I had a step ladder in that place, too.  I had forgotten about the step ladder so I bought another.  I haven't replaced the extension ladder.  I can get up on the fish room roof to sweep it off with an 8' step ladder.

I have never locked a door in my life.  I don't want to have to lock a door.  It should never be necessary.  I'm considering starting to do it.  I do not want to.  Just the fact that I lock doors will make me feel less safe.
Title: Re: Lawn mowers
Post by: wallace on August 22, 2016, 06:41:19 PM
One more house picture if I might. This is my front door, it probably hasn't been locked in 150 years. I love this old door and I won't change it.
Title: Re: Lawn mowers
Post by: LizStreithorst on August 22, 2016, 06:54:04 PM
That is a work or art.  You need to find some old glass to put where there was once glass.
Title: Re: Lawn mowers
Post by: wallace on August 22, 2016, 07:13:02 PM
You can tell from the opposite side that it never had glass, they were always wood panels. The door is about 7-1/2 feet tall, an unusual height. I have plenty of wavy bubbly glass in the windows.


Title: Re: Lawn mowers
Post by: LizStreithorst on August 22, 2016, 07:25:36 PM
I heard way back that old window glass is wavy because glass is a hard liquid and over time it flowed downward.  That didn't seem quite right to me but I don't know.  I think that it's wavy because they couldn't make it imperfection free like they can these days.  Do you know?  We have lots of old house in Ellisville.  It sticks out like a sore thumb where they have had to replace old glass with new.
Title: Re: Lawn mowers
Post by: wallace on August 22, 2016, 07:39:18 PM
Here is what I think it is:

While some people believe this waviness is simply a result of the age of the glass, it actually has to do with the techniques used to make glass at the time.

According to Old House Journal, the two most popular styles of glass during the 19th century were crown glass and cylinder glass. These styles were created using a glass blowing process, which largely contributed to the rippled and slumped appearance of windows in old homes.

The techniques essentially made it impossible to create a smooth, uniform look. The creation process also involved heating the glass and spinning it several times, which equally contributed to the wavy appearance.


I'm always hunting for old glass, its hard to find in the right size and I've tried to cut it without ruining it and can't. The boys shot a couple panes and threw balls through some too. I have flat glass in some still that need replacing.
Title: Re: Lawn mowers
Post by: Mugwump on August 22, 2016, 07:40:02 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on August 22, 2016, 07:25:36 PM
I heard way back that old window glass is wavy because glass is a hard liquid and over time it flowed downward.  That didn't seem quite right to me but I don't know.  I think that it's wavy because they couldn't make it imperfection free like they can these days.  Do you know?  We have lots of old house in Ellisville.  It sticks out like a sore thumb where they have had to replace old glass with new.


...some of the older panes are leaded glass too...
Title: Re: Lawn mowers
Post by: LizStreithorst on August 22, 2016, 08:08:09 PM
I know all about the evils and benefits of lead.  The stuff is great in gasoline, it'd great in paint, it's good for making pipes since it's so bendable.  None of those benefits outweigh it's draw backs in those produces.  Glass is a different matter.  Lead does wonders for glass.  I bet you won't find Waterford making unleaded crystal.  I'd drink a glass of wine out of a leaded crystal wine glass in a heart beat.
Title: Re: Lawn mowers
Post by: wallace on August 22, 2016, 08:16:40 PM
When gas was full of lead my Dad would pour it on the charcoal briquettes, then stand back and throw a match at it..WHOOSH. Some of that lead probably made it into the hamburgers and that explains all my shortcomings.
Title: Re: Lawn mowers
Post by: LizStreithorst on August 22, 2016, 08:34:13 PM
Lucky you.  I continue to look for things to explain all my shortcomings.  Try as I do, I can't find enough excuses huh