Culling and moving sub adults tomorrow

[LizStreithorst]

Damn.  I'd buy the juvies way before I'd buy the pair.  The pair isn't worth that much, period. 

[BallAquatics]

Liz, fish often sell for some outrageous amounts on AquaBid.  About the same time I got my 6 L183's for around $50, this group sold on AquaBid.  Brian is a member of our local club.....

http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/closed.cgi?view_archive_item&fwcatfishp1367184419

Dennis

[Mugwump]

Those are nice.  ...

[LizStreithorst]

Liz, are the 3 good enough to send to me?
Barb

As you know Barb,  I won't be buying or selling any fish for 6 months.  Until then, I will breed and select.  It's my only reasonable outlet under these circumstances.  I'm not happy just sitting around and watching fish swim.

[LizStreithorst]

Liz, fish often sell for some outrageous amounts on AquaBid.  About the same time I got my 6 L183's for around $50, this group sold on AquaBid.  Brian is a member of our local club.....

http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/closed.cgi?view_archive_item&fwcatfishp1367184419

Dennis

So I see now.  At the last NADA I took one of my most beautiful HB pairs and about 80 of their sibling's quarter sized expressing fry.  I wanted $150. for the pair.  If I didn't sell them for that I would have been happy to take them back home.  Everybody thought that I wouldn't sell them, but I did.  A knowledgeable Discus guy asked me about them.  I told him everything I knew back to the places the first cross came from.  He bought them.  I guess if they're worth the price to both the buyer and the seller, they're worth the price.

[LizStreithorst]

Here are pics of 2 of them.  One is a Pearl Scale, the other is not.I took pics before the fish were comfortably settled in so they aren't great.  I'll try for a full tank shot tomorrow.

[PaulineMi]

Absolutely beautiful Liz.

[LizStreithorst]

Thanks.  I know that they are pretty decent.  They also have a nice red eye.  Compare my eyes to what  Mark's Discus calls a red eye.  In Discus, a pale eye is a fault so we just naturally select for red eyes.  No so in Angels.  Y'all don't care about eye color.  But if I ever advertise the fact that my fish have a red eye, they will have a red eye.  To me, eye color is worth selecting for.  I just like it.

[LizStreithorst]

My first pair just formed.  It's a veil and a standard.  Neither are pearl scales, but both carry the gene.  I'll get their tank set up this after noon and get them moved as soon as I'm sure the heaters are doing right.

[Mugwump]

That's pretty sweet, Liz....you'll get a std/veil mix too....

[b125killer]

nice, good luck with them.

[Jdmcfast]

Fantastic! Good luck

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[LizStreithorst]

I separated another pair last night.  I pearl scale veil female and standard non pearl scale male.

[Barb]

Good luck with those beauties Liz, someday I may have some of yours in my tank.
Barb

[Frank The Plumber]

Keep all of your fish from this group. Each HB fish has a unique genetic identity, no two are the same. Matching the fish equates to matching the fish together that give you the best expression of Hb and most complete field and best differentiation line. Two fish that visually look great may not transfer this to their fry, a great looking fish and one not so great may turn out great looking fry. Test and raise out fish towards a sample to see which fish paired together make you the best Hb stock. Remember...you are always breeding towards better stock. Keep the best for you.

When you breed these keep at least two pairs. Keep the siblings separated from these pairs. As you progress, breed sib to sibling on each line. At three or so sib to sib crosses breed the two diverging lines together. This gives you a better cross than a sib to sib cross. This will be a cousin cross and a bit of variation in the exact gene line will have occurred.

I have silver, Pb Pb, blush, Paraiba, albino silver, black velvet, black blush, albino paraiba, albino blush, albino silver, Pb Pb ghost, and Pb Pb  ghost albino...Half blacks. Most are still young.

Het Everythings they are calling the Het stock that I cracked to get the phenotypes.

Next we are cracking D/+ Pb/+ A/+ Str/+ G/+ Z/+ V/V . We have 12 adults in the 75 pairing tank ready to start breaking bad.

Then D/+ Pb/+ Hb/+ S/+ V/V