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Title: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 01, 2015, 09:39:42 AM
I have my reservation in for the free upgrade.....and it's ready to go now......I'm almost ready to hit the button....

http://fieldguide.gizmodo.com/14-things-you-can-do-in-windows-10-that-you-couldnt-do-1721271379 (http://fieldguide.gizmodo.com/14-things-you-can-do-in-windows-10-that-you-couldnt-do-1721271379)
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: wsantia1 on August 01, 2015, 09:46:10 AM
Quote from: Mugwump on August 01, 2015, 09:39:42 AM
I have my reservation in for the free upgrade.....and it's ready to go now......I'm almost ready to hit the button....

http://fieldguide.gizmodo.com/14-things-you-can-do-in-windows-10-that-you-couldnt-do-1721271379 (http://fieldguide.gizmodo.com/14-things-you-can-do-in-windows-10-that-you-couldnt-do-1721271379)

Let us know how it goes. ;D
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 01, 2015, 09:49:23 AM
Quote from: wsantia1 on August 01, 2015, 09:46:10 AM
Quote from: Mugwump on August 01, 2015, 09:39:42 AM
I have my reservation in for the free upgrade.....and it's ready to go now......I'm almost ready to hit the button....

http://fieldguide.gizmodo.com/14-things-you-can-do-in-windows-10-that-you-couldnt-do-1721271379 (http://fieldguide.gizmodo.com/14-things-you-can-do-in-windows-10-that-you-couldnt-do-1721271379)

Let us know how it goes. ;D

.....almost..... ;D   I may add some ram too.....another 4 gig strip at least...if I can find it cheap??
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: ilroost on August 01, 2015, 03:47:45 PM
I'm interested in what you think of it myself. Been thinking about trying it to
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: LizStreithorst on August 01, 2015, 04:02:45 PM
I want to know, too.  My micorsoft office picture manager quit working.  I tried uninstalling it and reinstalling.  It won't work.  I get these popups telling me that I should install windows 10.  It says. "it has me covered"  I am so computericly ignorant but I am not happy.  I would switch to Linux as Dennis suggested but I have such fear.  What if I get it and am too stupid to make it work and can't get back what I had before, which I wasn't in love with in the first place, without spending an arm and a leg?
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: LizStreithorst on August 03, 2015, 11:18:23 AM
So....how do you like it?  Does it come with "photo editing for idiots?"
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 03, 2015, 11:26:51 AM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on August 03, 2015, 11:18:23 AM
So....how do you like it?  Does it come with "photo editing for idiots?"

LOL.....I haven't pulled the trigger yet.... 8)
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: LizStreithorst on August 03, 2015, 11:30:50 AM
Sissy...I shouldn't talk about being a sissy.  I won't do it until someone I trust gives it thumbs up.
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 03, 2015, 11:48:09 AM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on August 03, 2015, 11:30:50 AM
Sissy...I shouldn't talk about being a sissy.  I won't do it until someone I trust gives it thumbs up.

Right now it's still a download in progress......it's a gradual process...when it's ready, I'll get a notice...
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Ron Sower on August 03, 2015, 12:26:22 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on August 03, 2015, 11:30:50 AM
Sissy...I shouldn't talk about being a sissy.  I won't do it until someone I trust gives it thumbs up.
Ditto! Waiting to hear from one of you folks on here!
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: wsantia1 on August 03, 2015, 12:36:43 PM
Quote from: Ron Sower on August 03, 2015, 12:26:22 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on August 03, 2015, 11:30:50 AM
Sissy...I shouldn't talk about being a sissy.  I won't do it until someone I trust gives it thumbs up.
Ditto! Waiting to hear from one of you folks on here!

I am not comfortable with this upgrade. I am not convinced that microsoft will not require me to sign into a microsoft account everytime I log in. Right now I sign into my local account and that's the way I like it. This is the beginning of MS moving everything into their cloud. My cloud is here on my backup drives.
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 03, 2015, 12:54:31 PM
Quote from: wsantia1 on August 03, 2015, 12:36:43 PM
Quote from: Ron Sower on August 03, 2015, 12:26:22 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on August 03, 2015, 11:30:50 AM
Sissy...I shouldn't talk about being a sissy.  I won't do it until someone I trust gives it thumbs up.
Ditto! Waiting to hear from one of you folks on here!

I am not comfortable with this upgrade. I am not convinced that microsoft will not require me to sign into a microsoft account everytime I log in. Right now I sign into my local account and that's the way I like it. This is the beginning of MS moving everything into their cloud. My cloud is here on my backup drives.

here ya go Willie....
http://betanews.com/2015/02/08/how-to-automatically-bypass-windows-10s-login-screen/ (http://betanews.com/2015/02/08/how-to-automatically-bypass-windows-10s-login-screen/)
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 03, 2015, 12:57:59 PM
Quote from: Mugwump on August 03, 2015, 12:54:31 PM
Quote from: wsantia1 on August 03, 2015, 12:36:43 PM
Quote from: Ron Sower on August 03, 2015, 12:26:22 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on August 03, 2015, 11:30:50 AM
Sissy...I shouldn't talk about being a sissy.  I won't do it until someone I trust gives it thumbs up.
Ditto! Waiting to hear from one of you folks on here!

I am not comfortable with this upgrade. I am not convinced that microsoft will not require me to sign into a microsoft account everytime I log in. Right now I sign into my local account and that's the way I like it. This is the beginning of MS moving everything into their cloud. My cloud is here on my backup drives.

here ya go Willie....
http://betanews.com/2015/02/08/how-to-automatically-bypass-windows-10s-login-screen/ (http://betanews.com/2015/02/08/how-to-automatically-bypass-windows-10s-login-screen/)

and..........

http://betanews.com/2015/07/31/the-real-price-of-windows-10-is-your-privacy/ (http://betanews.com/2015/07/31/the-real-price-of-windows-10-is-your-privacy/)
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: wsantia1 on August 03, 2015, 01:11:32 PM
Quote from: Mugwump on August 03, 2015, 12:57:59 PM
Quote from: Mugwump on August 03, 2015, 12:54:31 PM
Quote from: wsantia1 on August 03, 2015, 12:36:43 PM
Quote from: Ron Sower on August 03, 2015, 12:26:22 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on August 03, 2015, 11:30:50 AM
Sissy...I shouldn't talk about being a sissy.  I won't do it until someone I trust gives it thumbs up.
Ditto! Waiting to hear from one of you folks on here!

I am not comfortable with this upgrade. I am not convinced that microsoft will not require me to sign into a microsoft account everytime I log in. Right now I sign into my local account and that's the way I like it. This is the beginning of MS moving everything into their cloud. My cloud is here on my backup drives.

here ya go Willie....
http://betanews.com/2015/02/08/how-to-automatically-bypass-windows-10s-login-screen/ (http://betanews.com/2015/02/08/how-to-automatically-bypass-windows-10s-login-screen/)

and..........

http://betanews.com/2015/07/31/the-real-price-of-windows-10-is-your-privacy/ (http://betanews.com/2015/07/31/the-real-price-of-windows-10-is-your-privacy/)

I think they make it hard for most folks to eliminate feeding them information. The default to everything is yes. You have to manually change it.
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 03, 2015, 02:01:25 PM
Quote from: wsantia1 on August 03, 2015, 01:11:32 PM
Quote from: Mugwump on August 03, 2015, 12:57:59 PM
Quote from: Mugwump on August 03, 2015, 12:54:31 PM
Quote from: wsantia1 on August 03, 2015, 12:36:43 PM
Quote from: Ron Sower on August 03, 2015, 12:26:22 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on August 03, 2015, 11:30:50 AM
Sissy...I shouldn't talk about being a sissy.  I won't do it until someone I trust gives it thumbs up.
Ditto! Waiting to hear from one of you folks on here!

I am not comfortable with this upgrade. I am not convinced that microsoft will not require me to sign into a microsoft account everytime I log in. Right now I sign into my local account and that's the way I like it. This is the beginning of MS moving everything into their cloud. My cloud is here on my backup drives.

here ya go Willie....
http://betanews.com/2015/02/08/how-to-automatically-bypass-windows-10s-login-screen/ (http://betanews.com/2015/02/08/how-to-automatically-bypass-windows-10s-login-screen/)

and..........

http://betanews.com/2015/07/31/the-real-price-of-windows-10-is-your-privacy/ (http://betanews.com/2015/07/31/the-real-price-of-windows-10-is-your-privacy/)

I think they make it hard for most folks to eliminate feeding them information. The default to everything is yes. You have to manually change it.

Yes, but taking the 'long' install will provide options for changing what you don't want too. The biggest gripe(s) I'm seeing are that it's also geared for the mobile market.....and some prefer Win 7......any new product has a learning curve, and many folks just don't want to change...plus they fear losing a favorite program somehow....
truth be told.....I'm holding out a little longer to wait for any missed bugs to be corrected....I don't hate Win 8....but a 'start menu' would be nice again..

Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: LizStreithorst on August 03, 2015, 02:10:11 PM
I can deal with Windows 8 but I'm certainly not in love with it as I was from the moment I started using XP.

Surely Dennis will have to deal with Windows 10 in his work.  Perhaps he will let us know what he thinks.  If only I had the guts I'd switch to Linux.
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: BallAquatics on August 03, 2015, 08:50:03 PM
Upgrade from a clean copy of Windows 7 took 45 minutes.  Installed on my $50 IBM laptop.  Not a real power house, Core 2 Duo @ 2 GHz with 4GB RAM.

So far, so good.  Once I get some of my dev tools loaded I'll have a better idea of how it performs.....

Dennis
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: LizStreithorst on August 03, 2015, 09:11:19 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 04, 2015, 05:32:46 AM
...doesn't look bad.... 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: BallAquatics on August 06, 2015, 04:28:34 PM
Just had a call from a client at a big trucking company.  His computer inadvertently was updated to Win X and now his "Stuff" doesn't work.....   Looks like that's where I be tomorrow.  LOL

Dennis
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: wsantia1 on August 06, 2015, 04:35:28 PM
LOL. That's what happened to me this morning on my laptop.  all my "stuff" works tho. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 06, 2015, 04:40:47 PM
Quote from: wsantia1 on August 06, 2015, 04:35:28 PM
LOL. That's what happened to me this morning on my laptop.  all my "stuff" works tho. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Whew..... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: wsantia1 on August 06, 2015, 06:06:32 PM
Now MS wants to upgrade my home made machine to Windows X. That has all my important stuff on it so it will need to wait until I am finished test driving the laptop. ???
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 06, 2015, 06:09:29 PM
Quote from: wsantia1 on August 06, 2015, 06:06:32 PM
Now MS wants to upgrade my home made machine to Windows X. That has all my important stuff on it so it will need to wait until I am finished test driving the laptop. ???

good plan.... ;D
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: wsantia1 on August 07, 2015, 09:17:58 AM
My smileys icons look a little more cartoonish now. Did Dennis do something or is it a function of Windows 10?  LOL ,I like the new way a lot, especially the last one. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: LizStreithorst on August 07, 2015, 09:33:54 AM
It was Dennis  w!w
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: PaulineMi on August 07, 2015, 10:44:44 AM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on August 07, 2015, 09:33:54 AM
It was Dennis  w!w

I knew Liz would use that smiley... ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: BallAquatics on August 07, 2015, 12:06:35 PM
Quote from: PaulineMi on August 07, 2015, 10:44:44 AM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on August 07, 2015, 09:33:54 AM
It was Dennis  w!w

I knew Liz would use that smiley... ;)

That's why some of them look a little funny,  Liz kept blowing smoke in my face while I was working on them last night.....   =;-)

Dennis
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 07, 2015, 12:15:22 PM
Quote from: BallAquatics on August 07, 2015, 12:06:35 PM
Quote from: PaulineMi on August 07, 2015, 10:44:44 AM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on August 07, 2015, 09:33:54 AM
It was Dennis  w!w

I knew Liz would use that smiley... ;)

That's why some of them look a little funny,  Liz kept blowing smoke in my face while I was working on them last night.....   =;-)

Dennis

=;-)    I like this one  w!w
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 07, 2015, 01:46:10 PM
ok....when I do the Win10 setup....besides not sharing wifi...what are some of the others that I normally wouldn't want??

I'm not sure that I want the voice nag,,,,anyone using it?...like it??..

any gaming options that I wouldn't want....are they a drag on resources just sitting idle??

any tips as to what to watch for is appreciated......trying to think ahead here as I'm going to the 'dark side' here shortly....
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: wsantia1 on August 07, 2015, 01:52:23 PM
I turned the voice thing off and well as just about everything else. If you try to do something that you did not select Windows 10 will prompt you to select it. The decision to activate or not select an item is then in your hands.
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 07, 2015, 01:57:05 PM
Quote from: wsantia1 on August 07, 2015, 01:52:23 PM
I turned the voice thing off and well as just about everything else. If you try to do something that you did not select Windows 10 will prompt you to select it. The decision to activate or not select an item is then in your hands.

Thanks....good to know.....I was hoping that a bunch of junk isn't crammed down our throats, then you have to figure out where the cleverly hid 'kill switch' is to be found...........hate that....
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: BallAquatics on August 07, 2015, 03:28:03 PM
That's what I did as well.  Turn it off and if needed down the road, I'll turn it on then.

I always use the "Local Login" too.  They will never be able to get rid of that one.  LOL

Dennis
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 07, 2015, 03:54:47 PM
Quote from: BallAquatics on August 07, 2015, 03:28:03 PM
That's what I did as well.  Turn it off and if needed down the road, I'll turn it on then.

I always use the "Local Login" too.  They will never be able to get rid of that one.  LOL

Dennis


I hate the Win 8 sign-ins every time....did you just enter bogus login info and take the local option ?.....or install win10 disconnected to the internet?...
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: BallAquatics on August 07, 2015, 04:02:33 PM
Well it's not bogus info, it's the info needed to login to my local network as opposed to the Microsoft network.  If you don't actually have a network you could enter whatever you like.

They have a legit reason for doing it their way, and for some folks it might very well be a good thing.

Dennis
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 07, 2015, 04:38:20 PM
Quote from: BallAquatics on August 07, 2015, 04:02:33 PM
Well it's not bogus info, it's the info needed to login to my local network as opposed to the Microsoft network.  If you don't actually have a network you could enter whatever you like.

They have a legit reason for doing it their way, and for some folks it might very well be a good thing.

Dennis

I understand that part....I'd read the easiest way to get the 'local' sign in setup was to either install unconnected...or sign in to the MS login with a bogus email addy and it kicks you to the 'local' acct creation page.....
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: wsantia1 on August 07, 2015, 05:19:36 PM
Quote from: Mugwump on August 07, 2015, 04:38:20 PM
Quote from: BallAquatics on August 07, 2015, 04:02:33 PM
Well it's not bogus info, it's the info needed to login to my local network as opposed to the Microsoft network.  If you don't actually have a network you could enter whatever you like.

They have a legit reason for doing it their way, and for some folks it might very well be a good thing.

Dennis

I understand that part....I'd read the easiest way to get the 'local' sign in setup was to either install unconnected...or sign in to the MS login with a bogus email addy and it kicks you to the 'local' acct creation page.....

My local just popped up like it always does. When I went through the install process I did the customized install and said no to everything. When I rebooted it went right ti the local login page. It may have kept the settings from Windows 7.
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 07, 2015, 05:54:51 PM
Quote from: wsantia1 on August 07, 2015, 05:19:36 PM
Quote from: Mugwump on August 07, 2015, 04:38:20 PM
Quote from: BallAquatics on August 07, 2015, 04:02:33 PM
Well it's not bogus info, it's the info needed to login to my local network as opposed to the Microsoft network.  If you don't actually have a network you could enter whatever you like.

They have a legit reason for doing it their way, and for some folks it might very well be a good thing.

Dennis

I understand that part....I'd read the easiest way to get the 'local' sign in setup was to either install unconnected...or sign in to the MS login with a bogus email addy and it kicks you to the 'local' acct creation page.....

My local just popped up like it always does. When I went through the install process I did the customized install and said no to everything. When I rebooted it went right ti the local login page. It may have kept the settings from Windows 7.

Interesting.....well, we'll see which one I get.......??
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: BallAquatics on August 07, 2015, 06:55:05 PM
Yep, same here.  I didn't loose any of my Win 7 settings.  It even carried over my wireless config on the laptops.

There is a link to click to set-up the local login.  It's just not as prominent as the button Microsoft wants you to click for their login.  LOL

I'm liking it pretty well.  I was thrilled to find that Win X lets you have multiple desktops like Linux.  On the weekends, I might be connected to 3 different client systems, it's very nice to have them running on their own desktop.  Once I have them all working away, I can open a fourth desktop to play in until one of the client systems needs further attention.

Dennis
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: wsantia1 on August 07, 2015, 07:36:52 PM
Quote from: BallAquatics on August 07, 2015, 06:55:05 PM

I was thrilled to find that Win X lets you have multiple desktops like Linux.


Dennis, are you using partitions to run the multiple desktops?
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 07, 2015, 07:39:54 PM
Quote from: wsantia1 on August 07, 2015, 07:36:52 PM
Quote from: BallAquatics on August 07, 2015, 06:55:05 PM

I was thrilled to find that Win X lets you have multiple desktops like Linux.


Dennis, are you using partitions to run the multiple desktops?


don't need to....

http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/windows-10-tip-use-multiple-desktops (http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/windows-10-tip-use-multiple-desktops)
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: BallAquatics on August 07, 2015, 09:11:36 PM
Quote from: wsantia1 on August 07, 2015, 07:36:52 PM
Dennis, are you using partitions to run the multiple desktops?

No it's not like a dual-boot system, these are multiple desktops all running at once.  You can switch between them and whatever is running on the other desktops just keeps right on cooking while you are working on another desktop.  It's kind of hard to explain, but once you get used to working with them, you really miss them when they are not available.  It's probably too much to hope that they work as well on Win X as they do in Linux.....

http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsoft-provides-closer-look-task-view-and-multiple-desktops-windows-10 (http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsoft-provides-closer-look-task-view-and-multiple-desktops-windows-10)

Dennis
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: wsantia1 on August 07, 2015, 10:03:46 PM
Quote from: BallAquatics on August 07, 2015, 09:11:36 PM
Quote from: wsantia1 on August 07, 2015, 07:36:52 PM
Dennis, are you using partitions to run the multiple desktops?

No it's not like a dual-boot system, these are multiple desktops all running at once.  You can switch between them and whatever is running on the other desktops just keeps right on cooking while you are working on another desktop.  It's kind of hard to explain, but once you get used to working with them, you really miss them when they are not available.  It's probably too much to hope that they work as well on Win X as they do in Linux.....

http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsoft-provides-closer-look-task-view-and-multiple-desktops-windows-10 (http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsoft-provides-closer-look-task-view-and-multiple-desktops-windows-10)

Dennis
Thanks guys.  I will read the material tomorrow.  It sounds interesting. [emoji2]
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 08, 2015, 12:45:37 PM
...all downloaded...took about 20 mins for the about 3 gigs to finish....it's preparing for install now.....yup, I hit the button....here we go.... ;D
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 08, 2015, 01:53:33 PM
Relatively painless.... :D....now to look around....
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 08, 2015, 02:11:32 PM
not liking the white program title bars, frames, etc......hope it gets added soon.... :'(
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: BallAquatics on August 08, 2015, 02:28:31 PM
Quote from: Mugwump on August 08, 2015, 01:53:33 PM
Relatively painless....

I was impressed at how smooth the update when too.

Dennis
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 08, 2015, 02:57:48 PM
Quote from: BallAquatics on August 08, 2015, 02:28:31 PM
Quote from: Mugwump on August 08, 2015, 01:53:33 PM
Relatively painless....

I was impressed at how smooth the update when too.

Dennis

it was very nice.....I'm experimenting with themes now......different....
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: wsantia1 on August 08, 2015, 07:54:52 PM
Quote from: Mugwump on August 08, 2015, 02:57:48 PM
Quote from: BallAquatics on August 08, 2015, 02:28:31 PM
Quote from: Mugwump on August 08, 2015, 01:53:33 PM
Relatively painless....

I was impressed at how smooth the update when too.

Dennis

it was very nice.....I'm experimenting with themes now......different....

I'm probably going to hit the button on my home made machine tomorrow. Too late to screw around with it now. Laptop's running fine. I have another computer that need a CPU fan replaced. It run Windows 7 Ultimate. It will upgrade to Windows 10 Pro. I have a CPU fan somewhere, but where? ??? That's going to be my basement/fishroom machine. It has all the music. ;D
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: BallAquatics on August 09, 2015, 01:25:13 AM
I'm not sure I would update all my systems just yet.  The FREE update is good for one year so there is really no hurry.

Here's an interesting piece on Forbes about Win X problems.....

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/08/08/windows-10-forced-updates-causing-endless-crash-loop/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/08/08/windows-10-forced-updates-causing-endless-crash-loop/)

Dennis
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 09, 2015, 05:58:39 AM
Quote from: BallAquatics on August 09, 2015, 01:25:13 AM
I'm not sure I would update all my systems just yet.  The FREE update is good for one year so there is really no hurry.

Here's an interesting piece on Forbes about Win X problems.....

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/08/08/windows-10-forced-updates-causing-endless-crash-loop/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/08/08/windows-10-forced-updates-causing-endless-crash-loop/)

Dennis

My install went fine...no issues at all....but I had Win 8.1....I'm betting those with problems have a common denominator of some type??....
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: BillT on August 09, 2015, 01:10:24 PM
QuoteHere's an interesting piece on Forbes about Win X problems.....

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/08/08/windows-10-forced-updates-causing-endless-crash-loop/

How many of these problems have people been experiencing.

Interesting.
I have a windows machine I have been waiting to get an upgrade on.
Usually I wait a few months for things to get worked out before I do system installs.
I just upgraded my Mac to its new system, just in time to not install the new one which will be coming out soon. Still had to install a legacy java to get an old adobe program to run.
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: BallAquatics on August 09, 2015, 01:18:53 PM
Quote from: BillT on August 09, 2015, 01:10:24 PM
How many of these problems have people been experiencing.

They are just starting to surface Bill.  Windows 10 has only been out a little over a week.

I found it somewhat amusing that the 64 bit version of Win X says my 2 dual core xeon processors are not suitable to run Windows 10, but if I load up the 32 bit version, it installs without any complaints.

I was hoping to see if Microsoft had fixed 10 to run better on business class equipment as Windows 7 is simply pathetic on these IBM workstations.  Oh well, maybe Windows XV   LOL

Dennis
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: LizStreithorst on August 09, 2015, 02:00:53 PM
I have decided to wait a month or two.  I want them to make it work before I download. 
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: ilroost on August 09, 2015, 02:12:06 PM
I'm with you Liz. Think i will give it a little more time yet. My laptop is 8.1 and never really liked it. But my desk top is still running vista
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: wsantia1 on August 09, 2015, 06:59:42 PM
So far Windows X has been running just fine on my laptop which was previously running Windows 7. ;D
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 09, 2015, 07:13:33 PM
Quote from: wsantia1 on August 09, 2015, 06:59:42 PM
So far Windows X has been running just fine on my laptop which was previously running Windows 7. ;D

Mine's purring along too.... 8)...gotta try that multi-desktop thingy tho....
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: LizStreithorst on August 09, 2015, 07:19:01 PM
lol.  I'm a sissy girl :-[
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 09, 2015, 07:26:25 PM
http://www.howtogeek.com/197625/how-to-use-virtual-desktops-in-windows-10/ (http://www.howtogeek.com/197625/how-to-use-virtual-desktops-in-windows-10/)
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: LizStreithorst on August 09, 2015, 07:32:43 PM
Muggers darling, there is no sense in talking logically about this to someone who is too stupid even to be able to make her new printer work.  I will make the leap when I have no choice unless you want to drive down to Mississippi and show me how.
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 09, 2015, 08:02:52 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on August 09, 2015, 07:32:43 PM
Muggers darling, there is no sense in talking logically about this to someone who is too stupid even to be able to make her new printer work.  I will make the leap when I have no choice unless you want to drive down to Mississippi and show me how.

I don't know...???...got a Shoney's close by...?? ;D
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: LizStreithorst on August 09, 2015, 08:05:43 PM
lol, you're afraid I'll serve you kidney stew ::)  I'm sure I can find a Shoney's to wine and dine you at, minus the wine ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 09, 2015, 08:11:48 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on August 09, 2015, 08:05:43 PM
lol, you're afraid I'll serve you kidney stew ::)  I'm sure I can find a Shoney's to wine and dine you at, minus the wine ;D ;D ;D

Kidney stew likely isn't bad....after all, I like turkey giblets, and giblet gravy on my dressing, etc....
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 09, 2015, 08:12:32 PM
virtual desktop rocks folks..... 8)
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: BallAquatics on August 10, 2015, 07:53:52 AM
Not quite as conveniently set-up as it is on Linux, but it's a step in the right direction.

Dennis
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 10, 2015, 07:56:39 AM
Quote from: BallAquatics on August 10, 2015, 07:53:52 AM
Not quite as conveniently set-up as it is on Linux, but it's a step in the right direction.

Dennis

LOL...having never used Linux....I'm in blind bliss then.... 8)
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: BallAquatics on August 10, 2015, 08:02:42 AM
The Windows 10 implementation is very similar to the Depot software version.  I've had Dexpt on a Windows 7 system for a couple of years with good results.  My be that Microsoft just bought rights to their software version and that's why they are so similar.....

http://www.dexpot.de/index.php?id=home (http://www.dexpot.de/index.php?id=home)

Dennis
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: wsantia1 on August 10, 2015, 09:08:23 AM
Just went through the apps and deleted a whole bunch that were loaded during the install. I also updated a lot of the notifications after I had one interrupt my screen asking me "tell your friends how much you like windows 10".

I can see getting notifications if something was going on with my machine but I hate it when MS wants me to pitch their product. I also got the one to upgrade Office 10 to the subscription based Office 365. ??? I got Office 10 for free now they suggest I pay? Turned that one off too. I am sure there will be a few more tweaks necessary as I move along. So far I like it tho.
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: BallAquatics on August 10, 2015, 09:16:11 AM
Quote from: wsantia1 on August 10, 2015, 09:08:23 AM
So far I like it tho.

Same here.  I'm liking it on my laptops I should say.  It's pretty much a turd on my workstation, but I was expecting that.

I'm really liking the fact that under the hood nothing much has changed.  I won't need to spend much time learning where MS has hidden the important stuff as the icon to go straight to setting in the task bar is a very nice addition.

Dennis
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 10, 2015, 09:38:12 AM
I just dumped a bunch of apps too......been going through the notifications too.....no commercials yet.. 8)
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: BallAquatics on August 10, 2015, 12:34:25 PM
Hey hey, just got Virtual Box working!   :D

Running local webdev environment, ftp download of website files, youtube podcast, and pdf book all going in separate windows.....

Dennis
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 10, 2015, 12:42:51 PM
It puts a line under the icon, in the tray too...for open apps.....
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: BallAquatics on August 10, 2015, 12:56:46 PM
Quote from: Mugwump on August 10, 2015, 12:42:51 PM
It puts a line under the icon, in the tray taskbar too...for open apps.....

The tray is the area where the Speakers & New notifications icons are located.  LOL

Dennis
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 10, 2015, 01:05:31 PM
Quote from: BallAquatics on August 10, 2015, 12:56:46 PM
Quote from: Mugwump on August 10, 2015, 12:42:51 PM
It puts a line under the icon, in the tray taskbar too...for open apps.....

The tray is the area where the Speakers & New notifications icons are located.  LOL

Dennis

;D....ok ok.....down there somewhere..................
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: BallAquatics on August 10, 2015, 01:07:38 PM
 :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D ;)

Dennis
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Ron Sower on August 20, 2015, 09:25:00 AM
I haven't downloaded 10 yet. It seems like you guys are okay with it. Is it time for a computer dufus like me to do it now?
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: GraphicGr8s on August 20, 2015, 09:57:55 AM
We've been instructed by EFI, the company that makes our print servers not to upgrade to 10. Seems as though it doesn't work with our servers.
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: BallAquatics on August 20, 2015, 10:10:07 AM
I've still got a couple of issues with 10, but overall it's working very well.  I did a complete days worth of work using it just the other day.

My issues are with the wireless connection and the VirtualBox software not working.

With the wireless, it works fine unless the system goes to sleep.  If it does, then it never gets connected again.  It sees the router and all, it just won't establish a connection.  If I restart, all is good again.

With VirtualBox, they are getting closer to having it fixed.  They say it's due to some security issue.  Most likely Microsoft NOT following a standard.  MS is famous for publishing standards of how things should work, and then NOT following the standard themselves.....

Dennis
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Ron Sower on August 20, 2015, 10:15:25 AM
Thanks guys. I'll go ahead and download in a couple days. Will I need to be ''attending'' the computer the whole time or can I click once and go away for awhile?
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: BallAquatics on August 20, 2015, 10:21:19 AM
It should download unattended Ron.  You will need to answer a few questions and oversee the actual upgrade.

Dennis
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: LizStreithorst on August 20, 2015, 01:52:35 PM
I'm about to suck it up and do it.  I don't want to but I might as well get it over with sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Ron Sower on August 20, 2015, 02:11:58 PM
Great, Liz! We can bug the rest of the gang with our issues! 
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: LizStreithorst on August 20, 2015, 02:20:24 PM
You first, Ron :P
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on August 20, 2015, 02:24:15 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on August 20, 2015, 02:20:24 PM
You first, Ron :P


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL...... 8)
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Ron Sower on August 20, 2015, 02:44:16 PM
I've already got my reservation in!
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on September 10, 2015, 01:31:36 PM
...still working pretty good here......like anything, I'm getting used to it.... |^|   
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: wsantia1 on September 10, 2015, 03:03:42 PM
I have it on my 2 running machines and will put it on my last one when I get around to fixing it. So far no problems. |^|
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: LizStreithorst on September 10, 2015, 03:10:09 PM
I guess I need to bite the bullet.
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Ron Sower on September 10, 2015, 06:10:27 PM
Go ahead, Liz..! I did it and it was painless. I'd been having some issues with my computer slowing down. Dennis gave me some good advice on things to try, which I did, and things sped up a little.

Hey, Miss Lucy did it before I did and even she likes it. She doesn't like change in technology at all because of the learning curve! But no complaints and she was coming from 7.

When I downloaded 10 things seem to have sped up even more. Imagination maybe?
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: LizStreithorst on September 10, 2015, 08:04:28 PM
I've got it downloading now. 
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Ron Sower on September 10, 2015, 08:07:49 PM
Great! Lucy came from 8.1 like I. The desktop has 7 and she hasn't done it yet.
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: BallAquatics on September 11, 2015, 09:21:45 AM
We all do so many things "on-line" that many of our speed issues are not limited to our own systems, but rather network issues encountered somewhere out in cyberspace.....

Try playing with the tracert command in Windows and you'll be amazed at all the systems a single Internet request goes through on the journey from your system to the destination.

Dennis
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: LizStreithorst on September 13, 2015, 08:33:52 PM
I did it!  I did it!  It was not painful at all!  I thought that I would be lost but it feels very comfortable.  I'm so proud of myself that I could burst ;D
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: BallAquatics on September 13, 2015, 08:39:03 PM
Way to go Liz!!!  You are a very capable lady.

Dennis
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: LizStreithorst on September 13, 2015, 08:45:16 PM
Quit pulling my leg, Dennis.  Capable with computers I am not.  It was just so easy that even I could do it.  I didn't even loose my beloved microsoft office picture manager.  Hell, If I can do it, anyone can w!w
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Ron Sower on September 14, 2015, 01:35:45 AM
Way to go, Liz! I knew you could! |^|
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on September 14, 2015, 06:37:02 AM
+1... |^|
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: wsantia1 on September 14, 2015, 07:56:29 AM
Great job Liz. |^| |^| |^|
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: BallAquatics on September 14, 2015, 10:26:09 AM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on September 13, 2015, 08:45:16 PM
Quit pulling my leg, Dennis.

No leg pulling intended.....  You had problems with your ISP and corrected them.  You wanted to update to Windows 10 and DID.  You run your own business.  You over-see work on your vehicles and property.....  need I go on???

Dennis
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: LizStreithorst on September 14, 2015, 10:41:14 AM
Thank you Dennis :-[  You know what they say...Necessity is a mother ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Ron Sower on September 14, 2015, 11:42:33 PM
Very interesting point you bring up Dennis. I never have liked anything to do with working on cars. On the other hand my father seemed to work on his a lot as we were growing up. I guess I was in my 30's when one day I asked him how he got started working on cars and learned so much about them. He told me that when he was a young man, he and his friends had their cars and were raising families, they really couldn't afford to take them to repair shops. So he started fixing his own. He helped his friends too. They in turn helped him on other things when we needed something done, like finishing off the attic for my brother's and my bedroom.
Necessity was the Mother. It also helps form strong relationship bonds.
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on September 17, 2015, 08:36:31 AM
Well Ron, have you loaded up Win10 yet?..... 8)
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Ron Sower on September 17, 2015, 10:17:09 AM
Mugs, check back on reply #89 here!!  ;D  I did and I'm liking it!  |^|
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Mugwump on September 17, 2015, 10:23:06 AM
Quote from: Ron Sower on September 17, 2015, 10:17:09 AM
Mugs, check back on reply #89 here!!  ;D  I did and I'm liking it!  |^|


Must have missed it..... huh....
Title: Re: Windows 10====>
Post by: Ron Sower on September 17, 2015, 10:46:50 AM
Quote from: Mugwump on September 17, 2015, 10:23:06 AM
Quote from: Ron Sower on September 17, 2015, 10:17:09 AM
Mugs, check back on reply #89 here!!  ;D  I did and I'm liking it!  |^|


Must have missed it..... huh....

Once in a while we do that, you know!   8)