How long before it's us?

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It's not semantics Jon. It is correct parsing of a sentence.

But alas I guess the Senator was wrong when he said this:

It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States.

LOLOLOLOL.....even more semantics.......

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The Donald and the Demagogues

Democracies that trade substance for charisma don?t last. Trump is America?s answer to Hugo Ch?vez.

By Bret Stephens - Aug. 31, 2015 - The Wall Street Journal

If by now you don?t find Donald Trump appalling, you?re appalling.

If you have reached physical maturity and still chuckle at Mr. Trump?s pubescent jokes about Rosie O?Donnell or Heidi Klum, you will never reach mental maturity. If you watched Mr. Trump mock fellow candidate Lindsey Graham?s low poll numbers and didn?t cringe at the lack of class, you are incapable of class. If you think we need to build new airports in Queens the way they build them in Qatar, you should be sent to join the millions of forced laborers who do construction in the Persian Gulf. It would serve you right.

Since Mr. Trump joined the GOP presidential field and leaped to the top of the polls, several views have been offered to explain his popularity. He conveys a can-do image. He is the bluntest of the candidates in addressing public fears of cultural and economic dislocation. He toes no line, serves no PAC, abides no ideology, is beholden to no man. He addresses the broad disgust of everyday Americans with their failed political establishment.

And so forth and so on?a parade of semi-sophisticated theories that act as bathroom deodorizer to mask the stench of this candidacy. Mr. Trump is a loudmouth vulgarian appealing to quieter vulgarians. These vulgarians comprise a significant percentage of the GOP base. The leader isn?t the problem. The people are. It takes the demos to make the demagogue.

There will be other opportunities to write about the radical affinities and moralizing conceits of Democrats and liberals. For now let?s speak plainly about what the Trump ascendancy says about the potential future of the Republican Party and the conservative movement.

It says that we may soon have a conservative movement in which the American creed of ?give us your tired, your poor? could yield to the Trumpian creed that America must not become a ?dumping ground? to poor immigrants from Latin America, as if these millions of hardworking and God-fearing people are a specimen of garbage.

It says that a party that carries on about the importance of e pluribus unum and rails against the identity politics of assorted minorities is increasingly tempted to indulge the paranoid (and losing) identity politics of a dwindling white majority.

It says that a sizable constituency in a party that is supposed to favor a plain reading of the Constitution objects to a plain reading of the 14th Amendment: ?All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.?

It says that a movement that is supposed to believe in defending old-fashioned values and traditions against the assorted degradations of the postmodern left might allow itself to be led by a reality-TV star whose meretricious tastes in trophies, architectural and otherwise, mainly remind me of the aesthetics of Bob Guccione.

It says that a party that is supposed to believe in the incomparable awesomeness of America thinks we are losing the economic hunger games to the brilliant political leadership of . . . Mexico. It says that a movement that is supposed to believe in economic freedom doesn?t believe in the essence of economic freedom: to wit, the free movement of goods, services, capital and labor.

It says that many of the same people who have bellyached nonstop for the past seven years about the cult-of-personality president currently in the Oval Office are seriously willing to consider another cult-of-personality figure on the off-chance he?s peddling the cure America needs. Focus group testing by pollster Frank Luntz suggests that Mr. Trump?s fans could care less about his flip-flopping political views but responded almost rapturously to his apparently magnetic persona.

When people become indifferent to the ideas of their would-be leaders, those leaders become prone to dangerous ideas. Democracies that trade policy substance for personal charisma tend not to last as democracies. They become Bolivarian republics. Donald Trump may be America?s Hugo Ch?vez, minus the political consistency.
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Because the Republican Party has not lost its mind?at least not yet?I doubt that Mr. Trump will be its presidential nominee. A single bad poll could break him. The summer before an election-year summer tends to be a political clown-time. Voters, like diners in a fancy restaurant, may entertain the idea of ordering the pigeon, but they?ll probably wind up with the chicken.

Still, Mr. Trump?s political star is rising in a period when fringe politics, both on the right and the left, are making a comeback in the West. Marine Le Pen in France. Beppe Grillo in Italy. Jeremy Corbyn in Great Britain. Bernie Sanders in the Democratic Party. Every now and then some of these characters get into office. Look at Viktor Orb?n in Hungary, or Alexis Tsipras in Greece.

Republicans like to think of America as an exceptional nation. And it is, not least in its distaste for demagogues. Donald Trump?s candidacy puts the strength of that distaste to the test.

[BillT]

It seems you wonder from issue to issue here depending on the 'cut & paste' that you have handy.....LOL   

Don't be surprised at this. He is really good at cherry picking.
One can create a pseudo-logical rationale easily but ignoring real facts and stringing together random things.

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It seems you wonder from issue to issue here depending on the 'cut & paste' that you have handy.....LOL   

Don't be surprised at this. He is really good at cherry picking.
One can create a pseudo-logical rationale easily but ignoring real facts and stringing together random things.

Actually Bill I leave that to the democrats. I have provided the links if you want to read them yourself to see what I have "cherry picked". I've backed my stuff up. So far I see nothing but rhetoric to support what you say. Well that part of it anyway where you are not personally attacking me.

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[GraphicGr8s]

Why don't we compare W painting to Bill's antics on that island? Heck just Bill's antics in the White House?

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Why don't we compare W painting to Bill's antics on that island? Heck just Bill's antics in the White House?

You could write the cartoonist, ya know.....he might care??....     LOL

[BillT]

Well that part of it anyway where you are not personally attacking me.

What you call personal attacks are just me describing your behavior.
The evidence for it is your posts.
You keep piling them higher and deeper, and then complain when other point this out.

Classic Republican tactic.
Its just sad.

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Bill I have posted facts then provided the links to where I found them to back it up.

You have posted, hmm, well nothing really to back up anything.
Just personal attacks is all from you.

Typical Democrat tactic.

It is so, so sad.

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[BillT]

Typical Democrat tactic.

It is so, so sad.

Copy cat.

[GraphicGr8s]

Jon, Maher is the idiot. They are already doing a couple of those things.

Bill how about you copycat me and post facts to back up your stuff.

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A woman in a hot air balloon realized she was lost. She reduced altitude and spotted a man below.
She descended a bit more and shouted, "Excuse me, can you help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago but I don't know where I am."
The man below replied "You're in a hot air balloon hovering approximately 30 feet above the ground. You're between 40 and 41 degrees north latitude and between 59 and 60 degrees west longitude."
"You must be a Republican," said the
balloonist. "I am", replied the man.
"How did you know?"
"Well, answered the balloonist, "everything you told me is technically correct, but I've no idea what to make of your information, and the fact is I'm still lost. Frankly, you've not been much help at all. If anything, you've delayed my trip even more."
The man below responded, "You must be a Democrat."
"I am," replied the balloonist, "but how did you know?"
"Well," said the man, "You don't know
where you are or where you're going.You have risen to where you are due to a large quantity of hot air. You made a promise which you've no idea how to keep, and somehow it's my fault?!!"

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Jon, Maher is the idiot. They are already doing a couple of those things.

Bill how about you copycat me and post facts to back up your stuff.

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[GraphicGr8s]

Well they did give guns to mexico and they did kill a border patrol agent with said gun.

Look how many places it is illegal to own guns. Look at Chicago, DC, NY.  The SCOTUS ruled the DC law unconstitutional yet they still don't issue permits.
http://thehill.com/regulation/other/213447-court-overturns-dc-handgun-law
BTW all the gun laws are in violation of the 2nd.


While they claim separation of church and state they are making kids in school in one state write there is no other god but allah.

http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/parents-furious-after-7th-graders-forced-to-write-allah-is-the/

And since most won't believe that link here is the liberal snopes on it

http://m.snopes.com/islam-tennessee-school/