Is this ethical?

[LizStreithorst]

My friend, the Chef, was looking at my Pearlscale German Blushers Monday.  He told me how I could make a killing on their kids.  He asked all the right questions.  He asked if I invented them   I said, "Certainly not.  You can write what they are in Greek!"  He asked, "Have you ever seen them  for sale?"  I had not.

He says that I have something that nobody else has so I should name them and ask for more for them than I think they're worth.  That troubles me.  I could get away with it if I were to sell them on Simply Discus.  I'm buddies with the Admins there so I would ask their permission first.  I can site a precedent.  A while back there was a guy on simply selling "War Paint Angels".   They were beautiful high coverage veil and super veil Koi.  If he can do it so can I.  What I want to know is if this is ethical?  Discus breeders do this shit all the time.

[waterboy]

I don't see why not.  Lots of people make up names for their Angelfish.  The people that buy Angels won't know the difference and the people that breed Angelfish won't care.

[Mugwump]

I don't see why not.  Lots of people make up names for their Angelfish.  The people that buy Angels won't know the difference and the people that breed Angelfish won't care.

..HUH?.........sorry, I can't buy that......I see attempts at this all the time...there's a guy on Aqrabid that does it constantly, and it drives me nuts....those angels aren't a rare commodity even if you don't see them often......and taking advantage of folks by coining a new name is deceitful ..imho.......

A good hobbyist/breeder must have some integrity.....and self respect.

..just call them what they are and say not often seen available...... ...then add a good price.....you'll make the same money....

[wallace]

Its a form of hustling. But when you ask this question, you are asking, "What are the consequences?" ..........  at the very least it will drive Jon nuts! 

[Mugwump]

Its a form of hustling. But when you ask this question, you are asking, "What are the consequences?" ..........  at the very least it will drive Jon nuts! 

...be true to yourself......

[wsantia1]

I don't see why not.  Lots of people make up names for their Angelfish.  The people that buy Angels won't know the difference and the people that breed Angelfish won't care.

..HUH?.........sorry, I can't buy that......I see attempts at this all the time...there's a guy on Aqrabid that does it constantly, and it drives me nuts....those angels aren't a rare commodity even if you don't see them often......and taking advantage of folks by coining a new name is deceitful ..imho.......

A good hobbyist/breeder must have some integrity.....and self respect.

..just call them what they are and say not often seen available...... ...then add a good price.....you'll make the same money....

I agree with Jon 100%

[LizStreithorst]

I will do this on Simply.  In advance of posting these yet to be named fish I will contact Pat and site the Warpaint angels thread.  I won't pull this shit anywhere but on Simply.  They need to know that their buy sell forum has a flaw, I will do good by doing bad.  It will be fun.

[wallace]

Here is that Simply thread, and a video

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showthread.php?127719-War-Paint-Angelfish-in-a-New-Direction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHrt3tMB8uk

[BillT]

In a business class I learned that by just asking a higher price, you often get things to sell better.

If you don't want to make up a name, just say they are hard (or almost impossible to get; limited availability) and maybe tout your good rep and fish raising skills.

[LizStreithorst]

Bill, your are a genius.  If I do it your way I won't be dishonest.  Thanks so much.

[Mugwump]

Bill, your are a genius.  If I do it your way I won't be dishonest.  Thanks so much.

"..just call them what they are and say not often seen available...... ...then add a good price.....you'll make the same money...."

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[Rjb3]

A guy was doing the high price thing on AquaBid with his fish food. Twenty-five bucks a half pound. No fish food is worth fifty bucks a pound. But people were paying it. Claimed it was the best in the world, all your fish will eat it fry to adult, money back if they don't eat it and keep the food, Blah, blah, blah.

Another guy says his food is a private label blend manufactured exclusively for one of the best known breeders in the country, not sold in stores, blah, blah, blah. You can say anything you want. I think AquaBid has more than enough "Best food there is". People will buy it. Makes it tough for a guy like me, so I don't go there anymore.

[Mugwump]

A guy was doing the high price thing on AquaBid with his fish food. Twenty-five bucks a half pound. No fish food is worth fifty bucks a pound. But people were paying it. Claimed it was the best in the world, all your fish will eat it fry to adult, money back if they don't eat it and keep the food, Blah, blah, blah.

Another guy says his food is a private label blend manufactured exclusively for one of the best known breeders in the country, not sold in stores, blah, blah, blah. You can say anything you want. I think AquaBid has more than enough "Best food there is". People will buy it. Makes it tough for a guy like me, so I don't go there anymore.