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THE POND-THE FRESHWATER PLACE => Tank Maintenance and Equipment => Topic started by: LizStreithorst on December 04, 2020, 12:43:19 PM

Title: Resealing a tank
Post by: LizStreithorst on December 04, 2020, 12:43:19 PM
What you need is acetone, a glass scraper, GE#1 silicone (the #1 has no fungicide in it), a caulking gun, painter's tape (which I forgot and you can forget if you don't mind a messy job, plastic grocery bags to wipe the silicone off your fingers (a trick that keeps your hands and britches clean), and a shop vac.

Start with a clean dry tank.  Make sure it's super clean by cleaning it with acetone.
I usually take the easy way out and just remove the old silicone to either side of the leak which is usually a corner (see pic)  It is harder to remove the silicone in the very corner but you can get it.
But when I got a look at the silicone in this tank the silicone was terrible around the entire bottom of the tank so I did the whole thing.
When you have scraped off all the silicone you want to replace, vacuum the tank out.  Then clean with acetone a second time. Scrape the area again.  You will get off the little bits you didn't know you had missed.  Vacuum again then acetone again.
At this point I got involved in doing the job and forgot to take pics until I was done.  But you run a bead of silicone all around the bottom, dampen your finger and spread the silicone neatly around the area you are working on.  The silicone remains workable for a period of time so with this small tank I did it in one fell swoop.  Mine isn't neat because I didn't bother with the painter's tape.  It's fine with me, but if you're a neat freak use the painter's tape before you silicone.
Let the silicone cure for 24 to 48 hrs then test to see if it's water tight.  If it doesn't leak, drain the tank again and to be on the safe side let it sit empty and dry before putting the tank back in place and introducing fish.

I'm afraid I'm not the world's best explainer.  I'm better at answering specific questions.  If you have any, please ask.


Title: Re: Resealing a tank
Post by: LizStreithorst on December 04, 2020, 12:44:31 PM
Two more.
Title: Re: Resealing a tank
Post by: wsantia1 on December 04, 2020, 02:10:24 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on December 04, 2020, 12:43:19 PM
What you need is acetone, a glass scraper, GE#1 silicone (the #1 has no fungicide in it), a caulking gun, painter's tape (which I forgot and you can forget if you don't mind a messy job, plastic grocery bags to wipe the silicone off your fingers (a trick that keeps your hands and britches clean), and a shop vac.

Start with a clean dry tank.  Make sure it's super clean by cleaning it with acetone.
I usually take the easy way out and just remove the old silicone to either side of the leak which is usually a corner (see pic)  It is harder to remove the silicone in the very corner but you can get it.
But when I got a look at the silicone in this tank the silicone was terrible around the entire bottom of the tank so I did the whole thing.
When you have scraped off all the silicone you want to replace, vacuum the tank out.  Then clean with acetone a second time. Scrape the area again.  You will get off the little bits you didn't know you had missed.  Vacuum again then acetone again.
At this point I got involved in doing the job and forgot to take pics until I was done.  But you run a bead of silicone all around the bottom, dampen your finger and spread the silicone neatly around the area you are working on.  The silicone remains workable for a period of time so with this small tank I did it in one fell swoop.  Mine isn't neat because I didn't bother with the painter's tape.  It's fine with me, but if you're a neat freak use the painter's tape before you silicone.
Let the silicone cure for 24 to 48 hrs then test to see if it's water tight.  If it doesn't leak, drain the tank again and to be on the safe side let it sit empty and dry before putting the tank back in place and introducing fish.

I'm afraid I'm not the world's best explainer.  I'm better at answering specific questions.  If you have any, please ask.

Thanks Liz. Your explanation was clear enough for me. I have one question for now. Are the acetone vapors toxic to other aquariums in the fishroom? I know that one time I cleaned a window in my old fishroom with windex and it killed a lot of the guppies I was breeding at the time.
Title: Re: Resealing a tank
Post by: LizStreithorst on December 04, 2020, 02:13:50 PM
Dang, I reseal all my tanks in the fish room and I have never had a problem.  It dries and the odor dissipates fast.  But I use Windex without problems as well.
Title: Re: Resealing a tank
Post by: BillT on December 05, 2020, 04:03:36 PM
Windex has ammonia in it, so that could cause water problems if enough of it evaporates and then is absorbed into the water.
I have read about this happening many times.

Don't know how much acetone (also pretty water soluble) would be needed to cause a problem.
Air exchanges would help in both cases, obviously.

Once I accidentally dumped a large egg nog (with rum) into a 20 G tank.
The water got cloudy, but I was able to do a couple of massive water changes because I have 50 G of room temp water ready to go at all times.
Surprisingly none of the danios in the tank seemed bothered by it.
Title: Re: Resealing a tank
Post by: Ron Sower on December 06, 2020, 12:25:56 AM
...eggnog in fish tank!...fish go  mim mim mim  ;)

...good to see you drop in here Bill...Happy/Merry!