...the bloody mary shrimp I got from Stan are reproducing like crazy now and I have been selling, trading and giving a bunch away...Friend Stan is no longer interested in BMs so I picked up all he had left from him...I got my original start from him...
...I noticed that the color in his was more solid and intense...I feed mine mostly different fish foods that I have, with emphasis on Spirulina flakes which they jump on...so I asked him what he feeds his and he told me the brands...they are all especially made/marketed for shrimp...I'm going to order some and see if, over time, they all have the same intensity of color...
...I'm doin the same with my tank of blue neos too...but the younger ones actually seem to have more and deeper blue than the originals...
...what are you folks feeding your shrimp...
I use Hakari Algae wafers and Nug Bombs. The Nug Boms are made for shrimp.
Tell us what you ordered for yours. I'm all ears.
Quote from: LizStreithorst on July 23, 2020, 02:18:34 PM
"I'm all ears.", said Ross Perot in a debate while running for president. True...I heard him!
..Stan feeds them Bacter AE, Shrimp King Complete, and Hikari Shrimp Cuisine...
...a fellow in our club is building a commercial shrimp sale business....we got our original BMs from him...I'm going to ask him what he feeds....
...the other guy I was mentioning says, "I feed all kinds of stuff. Main staples are nug bombs from Danqautics and started using Plamski a lot. Mainly his shine and protein.... I also feed leafs and snowflake if I'm going to be gone for a while." ...so there you go....looks like you're on the right track Liz!
It was Barb who convinced me to try the Nug Bombs.
...I've got some on the way...
Since I am the newbie in this arena I looked for shrimp specific food after a few failures getting started. For the time being I am feeding Bacter AE and and Shrimp King Snow Pops. They are killing this stuff.
I am going to order some Nug Bomz. I was looking for Nug Bombs and kept ending up on insecticide pages. Finally found the right site. lol
Quote from: wsantia1 on July 23, 2020, 05:05:25 PM
Since I am the newbie in this arena I looked for shrimp specific food after a few failures getting started. For the time being I am feeding Bacter AE and and Shrimp King Snow Pops. They are killing this stuff.
I am going to order some Nug Bomz. I was looking for Nug Bombs and kept ending up on insecticide pages. Finally found the right site. lol
...Me too!...
My fault. Sorry...
Either of you guys know where I can get yellow neo's? I have a 20 gallon available.
Quote from: LizStreithorst on July 23, 2020, 05:55:45 PM
My fault. Sorry...
Either of you guys know where I can get yellow neo's? I have a 20 gallon available.
I wish I did. Let me know if you find out.
There's a guy I just found on AB. Take a look at his shrimp auctions. From what I can see he's a very good breeder. I can't buy anything until I get my SS check without making myself have to suffer.
...Liz...my friend has them...he wants to know how many...
Good thread Ron!! I will read it all when I have time, very busy here right now. Liz, save some yellows for me, I will take a few red and yellow from you some time. My plan is to have 4 small tanks of primary color shrimp, red, blue, green and yellow. All lined up on one big stand. Or I could have a "skittles" tank I see pics of at the shrimp forum. But prefer single color tanks.
Barb
I think I got shrimp first. I received about 4 cherries in a small bag of Lime Green Endlers I got from a guy in Texas at least 10 yrs ago. Maybe longer. I think I sent some to Liz when I had lots. A few years ago I had a tank with what seemed to be thousands of them. So many I had to dump many. Felt bad about it. Now I have none. My Endlers ate all of them. Now shrimp only tanks.
Barb
Quote from: Ron Sower on July 24, 2020, 12:02:07 AM
...Liz...my friend has them...he wants to know how many...
I'd like between 12 and 20 but I don't expect to be able to afford them until next month.
Quote from: LizStreithorst on July 24, 2020, 07:38:55 AM
Quote from: Ron Sower on July 24, 2020, 12:02:07 AM
...Liz...my friend has them...he wants to know how many...
I'd like between 12 and 20 but I don't expect to be able to afford them until next month.
...I'lll let him know...
I think I'm going to buy from the Aquabid guy. I can tell that he is very serious about breeding shrimp. Don't know for sure though...I just sent him an email. He's in FL so shipping won't be so bad and they will likely arrive a day before your friend's from AZ.
Quote from: LizStreithorst on July 24, 2020, 02:36:43 PM
I think I'm going to buy from the Aquabid guy. I can tell that he is very serious about breeding shrimp. Don't know for sure though...I just sent him an email. He's in FL so shipping won't be so bad and they will likely arrive a day before your friend's from AZ.
okay
Just bought them. 2 bucks each plus 15 shipping. Not a bad deal. I put it on my credit card ::)
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Will you be buying some from your friend? It would be nice to swap some down the line if we get to feeling that we need new blood.
Quote from: LizStreithorst on July 24, 2020, 06:10:16 PM
Just bought them. 2 bucks each plus 15 shipping. Not a bad deal. I put it on my credit card ::)
That was a good deal. I'll probably be buying some soon.
Quote from: LizStreithorst on July 24, 2020, 06:36:06 PM
Will you be buying some from your friend? It would be nice to swap some down the line if we get to feeling that we need new blood.
...Probably...
My Aquabid guy is called fastjeepguy if you want to check him out. If you decide to buy from him let him know that I recommended him to you here on the forum.
Barb, you might want to check him out, too.
Quote from: LizStreithorst on July 25, 2020, 09:34:32 AM
My Aquabid guy is called fastjeepguy if you want to check him out. If you decide to buy from him let him know that I recommended him to you here on the forum.
Barb, you might want to check him out, too.
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I'm so bad. I shouldn't be buying stuff right now, but I am weak. I decided that if I were going to hell I might as well have fun and go in a hand basket. I just asked Scott, my shrimp man if I could put his red rili shrimp in a tank of baby snots. I don't see why not...If he says it's no problem I'll have I'll buy the auction and have him put it in the same shipment as my yellows he will ship Monday. All I lack is the emerald greens but I don't have a tank for them unless I stick them in a 10 gallon. Besides I haven't found a source for them.
My guy said they would be fine with the baby snots and will add them to my order. He gave me 5 buck of the AB price and no extra charge for shipping.
Wow Liz, you are doing great with shrimp. Going down in a handbasket made me laugh. I never used to know the joy of these little shrimp. I still can't find out how long a life they have, and how often a female can hatch out a bunch of eggs. And how often do they molt? Any of you know??
Barb
I have no clue. All I know is that they make more than enough babies to replace the ones that die.
This morning I did a big clean on the 2 tanks I'll be putting my new shrimp in. I even found enough poret foam to make a filter for one of the 29s. I'm gonna have to take the rainbows I'm growing out before I can start a search for emerald greens.
...I got the new shrimp foods Sunday...yesterday I put them in the shrimp tanks and...WOW!...they jumped on them!...
...After all the Bloody Mary shrimp I've sold, traded or given away in the last 2-3 week, I looked at the shrimp all over the new foods and I still have over a hundred in there and tiny shrimplets everywhere!...and this is in a 5g tank!... ??? I will begin culling ruthlessly for more intense colors...
... when I get home from Sedona, I'm going to order the yellows...
...I wonder how long the shrimp fad will last in the hobby, or if it's here to stay?...what do you guys think?...
Quote from: Ron Sower on July 28, 2020, 07:17:18 AM
...I got the new shrimp foods Sunday...yesterday I put them in the shrimp tanks and...WOW!...they jumped on them!...
...After all the Bloody Mary shrimp I've sold, traded or given away in the last 2-3 week, I looked at the shrimp all over the new foods and I still have over a hundred in there and tiny shrimplets everywhere!...and this is in a 5g tank!... ??? I will begin culling ruthlessly for more intense colors...
... when I get home from Sedona, I'm going to order the yellows...
...I wonder how long the shrimp fad will last in the hobby, or if it's here to stay?...what do you guys think?...
Hey Ron. I think it's here for a while. I've been looking at stuff on you tube from folks that have been doing shrimp since before 2010 and it's only picking up steam.
Quote from: wsantia1 on July 28, 2020, 08:47:22 AM
Quote from: Ron Sower on July 28, 2020, 07:17:18 AM
...I got the new shrimp foods Sunday...yesterday I put them in the shrimp tanks and...WOW!...they jumped on them!...
...After all the Bloody Mary shrimp I've sold, traded or given away in the last 2-3 week, I looked at the shrimp all over the new foods and I still have over a hundred in there and tiny shrimplets everywhere!...and this is in a 5g tank!... ??? I will begin culling ruthlessly for more intense colors...
... when I get home from Sedona, I'm going to order the yellows...
...I wonder how long the shrimp fad will last in the hobby, or if it's here to stay?...what do you guys think?...
Hey Ron. I think it's here for a while. I've been looking at stuff on you tube from folks that have been doing shrimp since before 2010 and it's only picking up steam.
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I am sure I have had Cherry reds for 10 yrs. All gone now to the Endlers but maybe I can get some from Liz in the Fall. I so enjoy watching my little blue shrimp. I caught one munching on a molt yesterday. They are so fun to watch up close with a mag. glass!
Barb
I forgot you didn't have the reds, Barb. Of course you can have some. I'm so looking forward to getting my yellow and rili reds. Tracking says Friday USPS must be using a horse and buggy. They're just coming from Fla.
I asked my shrimp man what he feeds his. He feeds them canned green beans! I heard that from a shrimp guy on Simply a while back, but I found it hard to believe that canned green beans were a good food. Apparently they are.
The USPS is in a lot of trouble right now with the Covid-19 and financial situation. I have a friend who's getting me some yellow shrimp from his wholesaler at cost.
I will be getting them on Thursday. I also have some Nerite Snails and Otos coming with that order. all of that at cost.
Needless to say that I take care of him when it comes to Angels and Bristlenoses. He's young and he hustles moving fish.
...I think rilis are in my future too...
...definitely ordering the pure strain of yellows from buypetshrimp.com when I get home...Linda and i were talking about fitting fitting a rack in the fish room and adding more shrimp tanks...
I am almost finished setting up the tank for the yellow shrimp I have arriving tomorrow. After I have the water parameters correct I will drop some Bacter AE and maybe a have of the Shrimp King Snow Pop and let it break down.
I did put a well seeded sponge to get this tank started. My biggest concern in making sure there is enough food available initially. The Bacter AE is supposed to produce biofilm and I'll also drop a well seasoned plant in there.
I look forward to seeing pics of all your new shrimp Willie, Liz and Ron! What does a Rili look like? Wonder if Jon and Jan would also join us in shrimp keeping if they were here?
Barb
They're not all exactly like this, but you get the gist. Red, red, red and bright white. There are blue rilis as well.
https://www.amazon.com/Red-Rili-Shrimp-Aquarium-Pack/dp/B079WGDWTM
...I had a small styro box that something came in and I had kept it...I used it Monday to send shrimp overnight to a gal in another part of the state and the shrimp arrived healthy...
...I was looking on Amazon and find the styros to be really expensive so I don't want to use those in the future...Liz, you cut building insulation sheets to fit in boxes to ship fish...I don't think it would be any different shipping shrimp that way...do you?...
...what do you use to cut the styro?....
Cut the styro to fit the box. It's not as well insulated as a styro but it works well enough.
Quote from: LizStreithorst on August 01, 2020, 12:12:51 PM
Cut the styro to fit the box. It's not as well insulated as a styro but it works well enough.
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Shrimp tip o the day. Put a piece of cooked green bean in your shrinp tank and watch what happens. They love it. I have 12 shrimp on a 1/2" piece of cooked bean.
Barb
Quote from: Barb on August 01, 2020, 07:17:23 PM
Shrimp tip o the day. Put a piece of cooked green bean in your shrinp tank and watch what happens. They love it. I have 12 shrimp on a 1/2" piece of cooked bean.
Barb
I guess I know what my vegetable is for tomorrow. Thanks for the tip Barb.
I'll be going to the store tomorrow. I can't wait to try it. And...I'm looking forward to eat what's left over. Next year I'll grow some.
...The Bloody Mary shrimp tank is still producing...I'll bet, counting all the little ones as well, that I have 150-200 still...one of the females has just un-berried herself!... |^|
...The blue shrimps are getting prolific now as well...in another month, I'll have to start thinning them out... |^|
...I should have ordered my breeding stock of yellows by now, but have been little covered up with stuff... :(
...Liz, the yellows you got from your guy....are they true breeding?...
yes, they are. He has some gold back yellows that are nice, too.
Quote from: LizStreithorst on August 04, 2020, 02:32:23 PM
yes, they are. He has some gold back yellows that are nice, too.
...I will contact him and see what we can do...
Do me a little favor and let him know that I recommended him to you.
Quote from: LizStreithorst on August 04, 2020, 05:39:11 PM
Do me a little favor and let him know that I recommended him to you.
...absolutely! |^| |^| |^|...I always let people know who referred me to them....being in sales most of my life, I found that that is the best form of advertising and I value a customer referral like I would gold...! |^| |^| |^|
Shrimp don't like cooked carrot. Their favorite food so far is the Nug Bomz that look like weed.
Barb
Thanks for letting me know, Barb.
Quote from: Barb on August 05, 2020, 05:53:05 AM
Shrimp don't like cooked carrot. Their favorite food so far is the Nug Bomz that look like weed.
Barb
...my blues and bloodies clean the Nug Bomz up like nobody's business... |^|
My shrimp like the nug bombs and Hakari algae wafers best. It's mostly the BN that devour blanched veggies.
I found shrimp shrimp disease chart on FB.
I have learned over the years with Discus that some parasites and viruses come from Asian imports. When I buy shrimp I like buying from domestic breeders.
Quote from: LizStreithorst on August 06, 2020, 05:59:28 PM
I have learned over the years with Discus that some parasites and viruses come from Asian imports. When I buy shrimp I like buying from domestic breeders.
...my local shrimp guru said exactly the. Same thing!...he always buys US grown...
Quote from: LizStreithorst on August 05, 2020, 02:04:56 PM
My shrimp like the nug bombs and Hakari algae wafers best. It's mostly the BN that devour blanched veggies.
I gave my shrimp Shrimp King complete and they loved it. I was becoming concerned about the yellow because they didn't appear to be eating and I lost 3 of them. Well they stayed on that one pellet and devoured it to my satisfaction. I am now waiting for my Nug Bomz. The package is in the mail and I am expecting it tomorrow. ::)
...sorry about the shrimp loss, Willie....did you get the Nug Bomz yet?...my guys devour it...
...I ordered some yellows from Erik Lucas and he'll ship Saturday to arrive Monday....really excited to get them...
...I bought the rack for the shrimp tanks today at Homely Despot...trading a fellow board member 25 Bloody Marys for a 5g tank and light tomorrow morning...
...I'll be putting the rack together this weekend and moving the tanks onto it....
Quote from: Ron Sower on August 14, 2020, 12:37:55 AM
...sorry about the shrimp loss, Willie....did you get the Nug Bomz yet?...my guys devour it...
...I ordered some yellows from Erik Lucas and he'll ship Saturday to arrive Monday....really excited to get them...
...I bought the rack for the shrimp tanks today at Homely Despot...trading a fellow board member 25 Bloody Marys for a 5g tank and light tomorrow morning...
...I'll be putting the rack together this weekend and moving the tanks onto it....
Thanks Ron. Yes I did get the Nug Bomz and they killed it. A little bit goes a long way too. |^| |^| |^|
It is my shrimp's favorite food for sure. Even my 2 assassin snails in with the blue shrimp love it. They all come "running" when I put a little chunk in the glass dish.
Barb
...the rack is assembled now with plenty of "head room" to work with nets and forceps when needed...
..still gotta figure out what to do with this bookcase...i need to get it out of the room to make space for the rack...
...yesterday was a busy shrimp tank adjustment day...I moved all the stuff in the bookcase into my bedroom...then slid the bookcase out to where it is now...in the hallway to my bathroom...it'll be there a day or two because we're keeping S n B's cat while their AC is out...and that's where we have the litter box, etc....
...next i slid the new rack in place and it fits perfectly!...good ol' measuring tapes really work well!...Placed all the tanks on the shelves and did temporary hookups for lights and air...I guess today I will refine that portion of the work...
...my yellow neos are to arrive today...hope he packaged them well with insulation...I've been assured he does....once they get here, I'll immediately drip acclimate them and hope to have them in their own little 5g by tonight! ;)
...Willie, I saw your question about temps in the shrimp tanks...I haven't really checked mine til right now...they are 70-72... and they are breeding like crazy...
...one thing i've learned from others is that neos don't like a lot of fluctuation in the water parameters...so I don't do heavy water changes...when I remove some shrimp, I dip out water for the container and put the shrimp in it...then I add RO water back to the tank...If i haven't removed shrimp this way for awhile, I may take out about 10% of the water and add the RO back to the tank...
...my yellows are so new that they haven't begun breeding yet so I can't tell if this is going to work for them too...time will tell...
....I have floaters in all the shrimp tanks...Dwarf water lettuce in one, Salvinia in two and Im' getting red root floaters at the swap for the other 2 tanks I'm cycling... and either Susswassertang, guppy grass, or that nasty old Java fern in them as well... one of these per tank...I don't like t mix them..
...the Bloody Mary tank has Safe-T-Sorb as substrate, and the others have no substrate...
...I'm also using botanicals this go-around with the shrimp...the usual almond leaves, etc...but I'm adding some seed pods from a tree we have in our yard...no clue what it is!...botanicals turn the water amber color...
Quote from: Ron Sower on August 25, 2020, 12:26:13 PM
...Willie, I saw your question about temps in the shrimp tanks...I haven't really checked mine til right now...they are 70-72... and they are breeding like crazy...
...one thing i've learned from others is that neos don't like a lot of fluctuation in the water parameters...so I don't do heavy water changes...when I remove some shrimp, I dip out water for the container and put the shrimp in it...then I add RO water back to the tank...If i haven't removed shrimp this way for awhile, I may take out about 10% of the water and add the RO back to the tank...
...my yellows are so new that they haven't begun breeding yet so I can't tell if this is going to work for them too...time will tell...
....I have floaters in all the shrimp tanks...Dwarf water lettuce in one, Salvinia in two and Im' getting red root floaters at the swap for the other 2 tanks I'm cycling... and either Susswassertang, guppy grass, or that nasty old Java fern in them as well... one of these per tank...I don't like t mix them..
...the Bloody Mary tank has Safe-T-Sorb as substrate, and the others have no substrate...
...I'm also using botanicals this go-around with the shrimp...the usual almond leaves, etc...but I'm adding some seed pods from a tree we have in our yard...no clue what it is!...botanicals turn the water amber color...
Thanks for the feedback Ron. I am using re-mineralized distilled water and I think I'm on the right track. I haven't had the yellows that long and they are pretty young.
I will add some almond leaves that I have though I may soak them first to leech out some of the tannins. I have gravel in both of my tanks. I may gradually remove it and go bare bottom.
Another shrimp tip o the day,
I put an algae covered amazon sword plant leaf (from my discus tank) into my new little bubble bowl with 7 baby shrimp. In 2 days these babies have cleaned the leaf completely, like there was never green fuzzy algae all over it. Will keep doing this. And NugBomz of course.
Barb
Also, I use just rainwater in my 2 shrimp containers. Don't know if they would like my tap water, and don't want to try it. With rainwater I can grow lots of plants that die in the tap water.
Barb
I have read that the shrimpies need a lot of calcium in their water. My water from the tap has a kH of just 4. Your rain water has almost no carbonates. I'm going to start floating a cuttle bone in my tanks. Since you're using rain water you might want to consider doing the same.
That's why I use Nugbomz, high in calcium. I could put in a piece of coral.....
that would work. Personally I kind of believe that fish get the minerals they need from food. I've found it to be true with Discus as has the Willie on Simply. Coral or cuttlebone can't hurt, though.
......I rigged two 24" lights in the shrimp rack yesterday...bought them from Amazon...Just Barrina LED shop lights...by attaching them to the rack self above, I won't have to be moving the lights around every time I go in with a net to remove some shrimp, or when I'm using my forceps to move stuff around...If I like these 2, I will put 2 more on the other 2 shelves....
...While at the swap, Mike Coleman, my shrimp master, had a kit of shrimp foods from Plamski Shrimp...He calls it Daily CAre...It has 7 different food packets so you feed out of one packet each day for balanced diet...I've started that to see if the shrimp produce any more (not that I really need them to do that), and if their color intensifies (which I would like to see)...
...later today I'm going to re-rig the airlines going to the sponge filters in all the shrimp tanks...I bought some silicone tubing that stays flexible...getting tired of dealing with that old plastic tubing that gets so stiff over time...
Ron, I would enjoy seeing your new shrimp set up, when it is camera-ready. Sounds like quite the shrimp operation you will be having there. How would I get some of this new food too? does he sell online?
Barb
Quote from: Barb on August 31, 2020, 01:06:36 PM
Ron, I would enjoy seeing your new shrimp set up, when it is camera-ready. Sounds like quite the shrimp operation you will be having there. How would I get some of this new food too? does he sell online?
Barb
...I'm getting there...! |^|
...my last pair of lights came today for the shrimp tank rack...got them in place....now I have to decide if I'm going to continue using the two air pumps I have, or order a single new one that can do all 8 tanks on the rack...once that's done and I have all the tubing in place and pretty much out of sight, I'll post pics....
...a young lady is coming by today to pick up 20 more Bloody Marys to add to the stock she's already bought from me...I'm discounting them to her because she gave me a 5.5g tank....I have a fellow holding one for me to pick up...after that, i'll only need one more to fill the rack...
Quote from: Ron Sower on September 02, 2020, 01:12:05 PM
...my last pair of lights came today for the shrimp tank rack...got them in place....now I have to decide if I'm going to continue using the two air pumps I have, or order a single new one that can do all 8 tanks on the rack...once that's done and I have all the tubing in place and pretty much out of sight, I'll post pics....
...a young lady is coming by today to pick up 20 more Bloody Marys to add to the stock she's already bought from me...I'm discounting them to her because she gave me a 5.5g tank....I have a fellow holding one for me to pick up...after that, i'll only need one more to fill the rack...
It sounds like it's all coming together nicely Ron. Great job. |^| |^| |^|
Quote from: wsantia1 on September 02, 2020, 01:49:29 PM
Quote from: Ron Sower on September 02, 2020, 01:12:05 PM
...my last pair of lights came today for the shrimp tank rack...got them in place....now I have to decide if I'm going to continue using the two air pumps I have, or order a single new one that can do all 8 tanks on the rack...once that's done and I have all the tubing in place and pretty much out of sight, I'll post pics....
...a young lady is coming by today to pick up 20 more Bloody Marys to add to the stock she's already bought from me...I'm discounting them to her because she gave me a 5.5g tank....I have a fellow holding one for me to pick up...after that, i'll only need one more to fill the rack...
It sounds like it's all coming together nicely Ron. Great job. |^| |^| |^|
...thank, Willie...it's just taking several days, but I'm not in a rush...i'm starting to realize I'm retired and not on a strict schedule as when I was working and seemed to have to hurry to get things done...! |^|
...I got my first group of yellows around 8/15/20....I added a few more younger ones from the swap last weekend... this morning I just now saw my first berried female feeding on the Subwassertang... this is about 2 weeks sooner than I expected...
She is beautiful Ron! Nice and plump with all those eggs!
Barb
Quote from: Ron Sower on September 05, 2020, 12:01:38 PM
...I got my first group of yellows around 8/15/20....I added a few more younger ones from the swap last weekend... this morning I just now saw my first berried female feeding on the Subwassertang... this is about 2 weeks sooner than I expected...
That is a beauty Ron. I am envious. I'm sure my yellows will be berried soon since they've been eating like pigs. Good luck with those.
...tanks a lot!...
You'll be the yellow shrimp king in no time!
:D :D :D :D
...noticed 2nd berried yellow this morning!...
Quote from: Ron Sower on September 07, 2020, 01:28:32 PM
...noticed 2nd berried yellow this morning!...
Congrats again Ron. You are on a roll. |^| |^| |^| |^| |^|
Quote from: wsantia1 on September 07, 2020, 01:45:37 PM
Quote from: Ron Sower on September 07, 2020, 01:28:32 PM
...noticed 2nd berried yellow this morning!...
Congrats again Ron. You are on a roll. |^| |^| |^| |^| |^|
...Rollin', Rollin', Rollin'...keep them shrimpies rollin'....Molt on, Molt on!...
...I'm going to find a single air pump that is quiet and can take care of 12-15 small tanks...any recommendations?...I'm seriously thinking about calling John at Jehmco...I got a linear piston pump from them many years ago...you couldn't hear it at all...I'm going to ask them if they have a very quiet diaphragm pump that they can recommend...
...currently using a Tetra Whisper (it doesn't!) a Fluval and an IMAG and they are barely sufficient....plus ugly with 2 lines coming out of each one...
Quote from: Ron Sower on September 08, 2020, 09:48:41 AM
...I'm going to find a single air pump that is quiet and can take care of 12-15 small tanks...any recommendations?...I'm seriously thinking about calling John at Jehmco...I got a linear piston pump from them many years ago...you couldn't hear it at all...I'm going to ask them if they have a very quiet diaphragm pump that they can recommend...
...currently using a Tetra Whisper (it doesn't!) a Fluval and an IMAG and they are barely sufficient....plus ugly with 2 lines coming out of each one...
John definitely has the pump you need. I use a small Alita AL-15 as my backup pump that handles 15 to 20 lines and is quiet.
...I ordered the DAPMH15...John said it is quiet like the LPH45 I purchase before... I just don't need that much air this time...smaller fishroom...it will arrive while I'm away, so I'll get Stan to bring it in for me when he feeds my fish...
You know Ron, my yellows are reproducing some but the ones really going great guns are my rili reds.
Quote from: LizStreithorst on September 11, 2020, 04:10:48 PM
You know Ron, my yellows are reproducing some but the ones really going great guns are my rili reds.
...maybe we should talk about the rili reds...would you want to think about trading some in the future?...
Sure!
...while we were in LV my diaphragm pump from Jehmco arrived...so I couldn't wait and last night I took down the six pumps I had on the shrimp tanks and hooked all the airlines up to the new one...It's a jumbled mess, but later today or tomorrow, I'm going to cut new air tubing and run them behind the tanks and then I'll be ready to send you guys a pic...
It's always exciting to get a new piece of equipment. Jehmco is the go to place for air pumps.
Good to hear Ron. I look forward to some pics. BTW where do you all order your Safe from? I want the big container of it. Some places only have little ones.
Barb
Quote from: Barb on September 19, 2020, 01:36:08 PM
Good to hear Ron. I look forward to some pics. BTW where do you all order your Safe from? I want the big container of it. Some places only have little ones.
Barb
Barb I get my Safe from Amazon. I get the 4kg size but they have the smaller sizes too. Very good pricing.
...as promised...
...the top tank is a 20g...using it for my plant holding tank for cuttings until I can sell or trade them...Using it for my shrimp culls now, so it will become a "skittles" tank!...
Great set up Ron, I know you will enjoy those little tanks a lot. Do you by any chance need more Java Moss? I have so much I am ready to throw some on my compost pile. Let me know, I don't mind if you sell it at a swap.
Barb
Quote from: Barb on September 23, 2020, 08:53:31 AM
Great set up Ron, I know you will enjoy those little tanks a lot. Do you by any chance need more Java Moss? I have so much I am ready to throw some on my compost pile. Let me know, I don't mind if you sell it at a swap.
Barb
Barb, I will buy some Java Moss some from you. They would go great in my shrimps tanks and I don't trust the stock in the stores.
Need your address Willie.
...did I see that one of you is raising lime green neos?...
Not I. I wish I had some, though.
Not me either. But I do raise Lime Green Endlers. Maybe I said that somewhere here??
It certainly wasn't me. I'm still learning with my blues and yellows and still have no shrimplets. huh
Quote from: Barb on October 19, 2020, 12:12:33 PM
Not me either. But I do raise Lime Green Endlers. Maybe I said that somewhere here??
...I'd bet that's what i was remembering...! if anyone locates a source, would yo please let me know? TIA |^|
..I'm thinking that I might do better with 10g shrimp tanks than the 5g I have...any thoughts on that?
Mine are all in 20's, 29's and 30's.
Does anyone have bare bottom shrimp tanks? I've also been thinking of moving from 5 gallons to 10 but wondering if I should go bare bottom.
I have both Willie, shrimp do well in both.
Quote from: Barb on October 22, 2020, 04:09:52 PM
I have both Willie, shrimp do well in both.
Thanks Barb When I upgrade the shrimp tanks I think I'll go bare bottom. I'm not real happy with the gravel I have in the tanks right now. huh
...I have one gravel bottom...but I think I'll add some inert white sand to some of the others...just a thin surface layer in order to increase the surface area for bacteria to occupy...
Over the past couple of weeks I've noticed a few different types of white worms in my shrimp tanks. I know that these worms are in fish tanks too but the fish usually make short work of them.
I've been looking into this and I think some of the worms may be Planaria which can be detrimental to shrimp. The main culprit is me and my overfeeding tendencies.
Are any of you familiar with these parasites? I bought some "No Planaria" but I'm hesitant to use it since my shrimp are finally in a good place and I don't want to lose any.
I've looked in some of the shrimp groups on Facebook and the reviews are mostly good. Let me know what you think.
Quote from: wsantia1 on November 01, 2020, 08:14:56 AM
Over the past couple of weeks I've noticed a few different types of white worms in my shrimp tanks. I know that these worms are in fish tanks too but the fish usually make short work of them.
I've been looking into this and I think some of the worms may be Planaria which can be detrimental to shrimp. The main culprit is me and my overfeeding tendencies.
Are any of you familiar with these parasites? I bought some "No Planaria" but I'm hesitant to use it since my shrimp are finally in a good place and I don't want to lose any.
I've looked in some of the shrimp groups on Facebook and the reviews are mostly good. Let me know what you think.
...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkKSEpkEaws...
...https://www.amazon.com/Genchem-Planaria-Shrimp-Killer-Planted/dp/B07M683JK4...
Quote from: Ron Sower on November 01, 2020, 09:43:09 AM
Quote from: wsantia1 on November 01, 2020, 08:14:56 AM
Over the past couple of weeks I've noticed a few different types of white worms in my shrimp tanks. I know that these worms are in fish tanks too but the fish usually make short work of them.
I've been looking into this and I think some of the worms may be Planaria which can be detrimental to shrimp. The main culprit is me and my overfeeding tendencies.
Are any of you familiar with these parasites? I bought some "No Planaria" but I'm hesitant to use it since my shrimp are finally in a good place and I don't want to lose any.
I've looked in some of the shrimp groups on Facebook and the reviews are mostly good. Let me know what you think.
...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkKSEpkEaws...
...https://www.amazon.com/Genchem-Planaria-Shrimp-Killer-Planted/dp/B07M683JK4...
Thanks for that video Ron. What I learned from that was that what I am really looking not Planaria but one of those other worms and seed shrimp.
I will definitely cut down the feeding and continue vacuuming the gravel. I'll also squeeze in an extra water change to see if their is any improvement.
Quote from: wsantia1 on November 01, 2020, 10:18:34 AM
Quote from: Ron Sower on November 01, 2020, 09:43:09 AM
Quote from: wsantia1 on November 01, 2020, 08:14:56 AM
Over the past couple of weeks I've noticed a few different types of white worms in my shrimp tanks. I know that these worms are in fish tanks too but the fish usually make short work of them.
I've been looking into this and I think some of the worms may be Planaria which can be detrimental to shrimp. The main culprit is me and my overfeeding tendencies.
Are any of you familiar with these parasites? I bought some "No Planaria" but I'm hesitant to use it since my shrimp are finally in a good place and I don't want to lose any.
I've looked in some of the shrimp groups on Facebook and the reviews are mostly good. Let me know what you think.
...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkKSEpkEaws...
...https://www.amazon.com/Genchem-Planaria-Shrimp-Killer-Planted/dp/B07M683JK4...
Thanks for that video Ron. What I learned from that was that what I am really looking not Planaria but one of those other worms and seed shrimp.
I will definitely cut down the feeding and continue vacuuming the gravel. I'll also squeeze in an extra water change to see if their is any improvement.
The worm I have is a Rhabdocoela Flatworm. Supposed to be harmless to shrimp I don't like them. I think I'll get a few Endlers to get rid of them. I spoke to a friend of mine and he's putting a little group of Endlers for me that he will drop off.
Quote from: wsantia1 on November 01, 2020, 10:59:35 AM
Quote from: wsantia1 on November 01, 2020, 10:18:34 AM
Quote from: Ron Sower on November 01, 2020, 09:43:09 AM
Quote from: wsantia1 on November 01, 2020, 08:14:56 AM
Over the past couple of weeks I've noticed a few different types of white worms in my shrimp tanks. I know that these worms are in fish tanks too but the fish usually make short work of them.
I've been looking into this and I think some of the worms may be Planaria which can be detrimental to shrimp. The main culprit is me and my overfeeding tendencies.
Are any of you familiar with these parasites? I bought some "No Planaria" but I'm hesitant to use it since my shrimp are finally in a good place and I don't want to lose any.
I've looked in some of the shrimp groups on Facebook and the reviews are mostly good. Let me know what you think.
...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkKSEpkEaws...
...https://www.amazon.com/Genchem-Planaria-Shrimp-Killer-Planted/dp/B07M683JK4...
Thanks for that video Ron. What I learned from that was that what I am really looking not Planaria but one of those other worms and seed shrimp.
I will definitely cut down the feeding and continue vacuuming the gravel. I'll also squeeze in an extra water change to see if their is any improvement.
The worm I have is a Rhabdocoela Flatworm. Supposed to be harmless to shrimp I don't like them. I think I'll get a few Endlers to get rid of them. I spoke to a friend of mine and he's putting a little group of Endlers for me that he will drop off.
... |^| |^| |^|
...Like I said on the other post, traded for some "fire red" shrimp yesterday, an they do look orange so far...Liz, did yours ever get bright red?...I'm keeping them seperate for now until I can see which way they will go...
Mine did get red.
Speaking of red, these are the most beautiful red shrimp I've ever seen. He's not giving them away either. As asked him how similar in color and size to the ones in the picture. Don't you think they're stunning?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/254733625127
Quote from: LizStreithorst on November 14, 2020, 07:32:22 PM
Speaking of red, these are the most beautiful red shrimp I've ever seen. He's not giving them away either. As asked him how similar in color and size to the ones in the picture. Don't you think they're stunning?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/254733625127
They are beauties. |^| |^| |^| |^| |^|
He hasn't responded yet but it's early Sunday morning. If he doesn't respond at all I'll know that he's a fake.
Quote from: wsantia1 on November 15, 2020, 08:08:56 AM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on November 14, 2020, 07:32:22 PM
Speaking of red, these are the most beautiful red shrimp I've ever seen. He's not giving them away either. As asked him how similar in color and size to the ones in the picture. Don't you think they're stunning?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/254733625127
They are beauties. |^| |^| |^| |^| |^|
...Ditto that!...
....my yellow shrimp are coming along nicely except that the colors aren't intense in some of them....I'm culling those, and concentrating on the ones with the distinctive bright yellow stripes down the length of their backs...those without it are going into their own tank...I'm hoping to get this strain with more intense solid yellow bodies...
Let me know when you have some foe sale, Ron.
Quote from: LizStreithorst on November 18, 2020, 02:37:08 PM
Let me know when you have some foe sale, Ron.
...soon...I'll set you know!...
BTW, that guy with the pic of the beautiful reds never responded to my question. So now we know to avoid his auctions.
Quote from: LizStreithorst on November 18, 2020, 04:19:44 PM
BTW, that guy with the pic of the beautiful reds never responded to my question. So now we know to avoid his auctions.
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Finally I have babies. I only saw these two but hopefully there are more.
I can't imagine what happened to my yellows. I think they all died. I don't see any Ping-Pong balls jumping around in any of the female's bodies. Finally, after adding some reds from a different source I see ping pong balls in one female. I'm thinking that it's important to add new blood after a while because the constant in breeding seems to reduce fertility. Anyone have any other theories? On a happy note my rili red's are producing like crazy.
Quote from: LizStreithorst on December 06, 2020, 12:16:51 PM
I can't imagine what happened to my yellows. I think they all died. I don't see any Ping-Pong balls jumping around in any of the female's bodies. Finally, after adding some reds from a different source I see ping pong balls in one female. I'm thinking that it's important to add new blood after a while because the constant in breeding seems to reduce fertility. Anyone have any other theories? On a happy note my rili red's are producing like crazy.
That's interesting Liz. I haven't had any luck with my blues but maybe I am just too blind to see them. I haven't seen any juggling of egg either. huh
I've finally saw my first berried shrimp. Is is a small yellow one and she stays in the food jar. Must be a smart one. I do have 2 babies (getting bigger daily) in the tank but I never observed a berried female. The tank has a lot of java moss so I probably just missed it. Hopefully there are more babies hiding. mim mim mim
Congrats, Willie! I'm down to just one yellow. I'm getting a little disgusted with shrimp. All populations are waning except the rili reds.
...my blues are about gone...checked with my mentor and he said to check water parameters, which I seldom do...the KH was 0...so I added some of our wonderful limestone rock water to the tank yesterday to see if that helps any...we'll see what happens...
...I'm still not happy with my yellows in the breeding tank...color just isn't strong....however I put a few of the washed out ones in my tetra tank with dark wood in it and they just pop with color against the wood...so I think it's the lighting on my shrimp rack...same with the Bloodies...
Thanks Liz. My blues are waning also. I blame myself for not being ready for the shrimp (sorry Liz) when I ordered them. Now I am down to what I think are three big females and what I hope is a small male. I did learn a lot about shrimp with these but I learned it the hard way with lots of losses. huh
I still have about a dz blues, but they don't do any breeding for some reason. But they seem to be healthy. I did see one female that may have some eggs, but will need a mag. glass to see for sure when she gets close to the glass.
Barb
I've wondered if they could be seasonal breeders for a long time but had never read anything that said that. I dug down in Google results just now and found that their natural breeding season is summer. I don't know if that's the cause of the problems we're having but it's something to consider. https://www.fishkeepingworld.com/cherry-shrimp/
Well my fears of a female dropping her eggs came true. The semi good news is that I caught her in the act when I got home today and I quick syphoned about 20 and put them in a net over an airstone in a 2.5 gallon tank. Hopefully they will hatch.
I may drop a bit of H2O2 in the tank to prevent fungus. This female is still carrying some eggs so she may been startled into dropping her eggs when I turned on the lights after being gone for a couple of days.
Other good news is that there are still 2 fully berried yellows not including the one that dropped. So an additional one got berried while I was gone.
Those little white dots are live baby shrimp, not eggs. Neocardia are live bearers.
...I think my blue shrimp die-off may have come to an end, leaving me with 5-6 in the tank...we'll see what happens next...
I'm not loosing any more either but mine have yet to start breeding.
I looked in my red rili tank yesterday. I saw 5 berried females one of wish who was shooting out tiny babies.
Quote from: LizStreithorst on December 27, 2020, 07:07:51 AM
I'm not loosing any more either but mine have yet to start breeding.
I looked in my red rili tank yesterday. I saw 5 berried females one of wish who was shooting out tiny babies.
...cool beans...!
Now I have at least 4 berried females. Two weeks ago I thought I would never get 1. huh
You got it going on, Willie.
Quote from: LizStreithorst on December 27, 2020, 05:10:19 PM
You got it going on, Willie.
Now I'm waiting to see the babies although I have 2 juvies that popped up a couple of weeks ago from who knows where.
Quote from: wsantia1 on December 27, 2020, 06:52:36 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on December 27, 2020, 05:10:19 PM
You got it going on, Willie.
Now I'm waiting to see the babies although I have 2 juvies that popped up a couple of weeks ago from who knows where.
Finally I have baby yellow shrimp. I counted 5 and I hope there are more. These are very tiny but already yellow. They are much smaller than the 2 little shrimp I found a couple of weeks ago.
I still have 3 berried shrimp left so there will be more. Good thing they are in an algae filled tank that's a mess. Plenty of food and hiding places in there.
Quote from: wsantia1 on January 04, 2021, 02:20:12 PM
Quote from: wsantia1 on December 27, 2020, 06:52:36 PM
Quote from: LizStreithorst on December 27, 2020, 05:10:19 PM
You got it going on, Willie.
Now I'm waiting to see the babies although I have 2 juvies that popped up a couple of weeks ago from who knows where.
Finally I have baby yellow shrimp. I counted 5 and I hope there are more. These are very tiny but already yellow. They are much smaller than the 2 little shrimp I found a couple of weeks ago.
I still have 3 berried shrimp left so there will be more. Good thing they are in an algae filled tank that's a mess. Plenty of food and hiding places in there.
... |^| |^| |^| ...
I am now seeing what all the excitement is about these shrimp. I can now see multiple sizes of fry that are obviously from different spawns and I don't have to worry about them being food. ;D ;D ;D
They're way cool, aren't day. My favorite thing is when I see the ping pong balls bouncing around in the mamas.
...yep...they are fun to watch...!
.. I now have a bunch of yellows...thy strain isn't 100% pure though...some of the younger ones have a greenish tint to the bodies with the pronounced yellow stripe down the back...
I looked in my yellow shrimp tank this morning and the first thing I noticed was a dead male. I hope he was not my only male because that will slow down my production.
I have 7 adults left and I know two are berried. I also have over 50 babies growing out so the future looks good. I need to get a couple of Blue Dream males to get that tank on track since I have 4 large deep blue females that need some attention.
When the spring comes I need to order a Green Jade colony and some Bloody Marys to complete my Neocaridina setup.
One I have this going I will play around with some Caradinas.
I fed my small blue shrimp tank this morning, I only put food in twice a week. There are 4 little blues and a ton of java moss, gravel and a little pottery dish (I made it) that I put the food into. Awhile ago I looked in there and in the bowl, eating, was a berried female, and she was popping out babies!!!!!! Right in the feeding bowl. Right next to her was the one assassin snail in the tank. He was busy eating and didn't even notice what was going on right next to him. I don't know how many babies were popped out, but the female is only 1/2" long. She is only about 6 mo. old. A very exciting day, didn't know shrimp could be so entertaining! My other shrimp tank, also blues from Liz, has 7 adults but heavily planted and I never see any babies, but there are probably some in there. Also a Betta. But he stays at the top of the tank where I feed him twice a day.
Barb
Barb
Quote from: Barb on February 09, 2021, 04:05:05 PM
I fed my small blue shrimp tank this morning, I only put food in twice a week. There are 4 little blues and a ton of java moss, gravel and a little pottery dish (I made it) that I put the food into. Awhile ago I looked in there and in the bowl, eating, was a berried female, and she was popping out babies!!!!!! Right in the feeding bowl. Right next to her was the one assassin snail in the tank. He was busy eating and didn't even notice what was going on right next to him. I don't know how many babies were popped out, but the female is only 1/2" long. She is only about 6 mo. old. A very exciting day, didn't know shrimp could be so entertaining! My other shrimp tank, also blues from Liz, has 7 adults but heavily planted and I never see any babies, but there are probably some in there. Also a Betta. But he stays at the top of the tank where I feed him twice a day.
Barb
Barb
...Bettas are stalkers!...that's probably why you see few or no shrimplets!...if it fits in their mouths, they will eat them!...just saying!... 2c2
Quote from: Ron Sower on February 09, 2021, 05:31:18 PM
Quote from: Barb on February 09, 2021, 04:05:05 PM
I fed my small blue shrimp tank this morning, I only put food in twice a week. There are 4 little blues and a ton of java moss, gravel and a little pottery dish (I made it) that I put the food into. Awhile ago I looked in there and in the bowl, eating, was a berried female, and she was popping out babies!!!!!! Right in the feeding bowl. Right next to her was the one assassin snail in the tank. He was busy eating and didn't even notice what was going on right next to him. I don't know how many babies were popped out, but the female is only 1/2" long. She is only about 6 mo. old. A very exciting day, didn't know shrimp could be so entertaining! My other shrimp tank, also blues from Liz, has 7 adults but heavily planted and I never see any babies, but there are probably some in there. Also a Betta. But he stays at the top of the tank where I feed him twice a day.
Barb
Barb
...Bettas are stalkers!...that's probably why you see few or no shrimplets!...if it fits in their mouths, they will eat them!...just saying!... 2c2
Barb I agree with Ron. Your Betta is probably feasting on baby shrimp.
OK, I will get him a different tank. Thanks! But the tank has so much Java Moss he can't even get into it. I will get him out though.
Barb
Yellow Shrimp Family Dinner. mim mim mim It looked much clearer on my phone. huh
Quote from: Barb on February 10, 2021, 06:14:46 AM
OK, I will get him a different tank. Thanks! But the tank has so much Java Moss he can't even get into it. I will get him out though.
Barb
Barb, that Java Moss you sent me is completely out of control. lol ;D My shrimp love it and the yellow ones are breeding regularly. I actually saw a juvie female saddled today. huh Well I will have plenty of JM to set up my 10g for the yellows I afraid the they will crash the 5.5 gallon tank that they are in.
...Liz...how are the yellow shrimp doing?...
Still doing well, Ron.
My blues from Liz are well, have some little ones growing up. Shrimp are such fun little things, aren't they?
I've been feeding mine my home made food called Snello. It's designed for snails but the shrimp and BN devour it like nothing I've ever seen.
For the first time I see one of my juvie Yellow Shrimp berried. 8) She is about half the size of my breeding shrimp but I saw saddles on a couple of the juvie females and today one of them is pregnant. mim mim mim
That's wonderful, Willie.
...Hip, Hip, Hooray...!